Ward out 6-8 weeks, MCL

[Drivebytrucker]

Rutherford is looking to bring in Martin Gerber.

Book it

 

[snakepliskin]

Ward played like garbage in the Montreal game. I don't care if he was good through two periods, he let in two absolutely horrendous goals. The equivalent of what Ward did would be Staal scoring two goals through the first 40 minutes and then taking twelve minor penalties in the third before defecating at center ice in a one-goal game. Actually, no, Ward was worse than that.

kind of odd that you are crucifying ward over a very partial season that was delayed 3 months by stupidity and who by all accounts was rounding into form-but you are willing to burn him in this b*******d crap * season? you must think quality goalies grow on trees! yeah he sucked a couple of games -BIG FRIGGIN DEAL- he has won several games with a patchwork D in front of him and not to mention the putrid D we have iced in the past that had him shelled like a machine gun taget. there is very few goalies out there i or most of us here would trade him for.

 

[jg39]

Thanks for dropping by. I'm wondering, will there be lingering effects after recovery? Will he still feel it for a few months or the rest of his life, or will he forget it ever happened after the two months are up? I know you said yours wasn't as bad, but do you recall any lingering effects?

I think with any knee ligament tear, you will always feel something from it. Similarly, I don't think you ever forget an injury because you always remember what caused you pain/to miss starts. Soreness is the main thing I have heard, and something I still encounter, especially with atmospheric pressure drops. I know it's going to rain tomorrow because my knee gets sore.

As for lingering effects, I don't think anything besides soreness will occur. The ligament gets back to strength once it heals. I wasn't really ever given a rehab plan, something I'm still a bit displeased about...but a lot of it is psychological regarding the future. You have to trust that your knee is healed, and that you can do everything you used to do. For me, I try not to let it affect my play. However, when anything iffy happens to my right knee, I immediately question how my MCL is and if it's ok. I still make the same moves and blocks I used to, I just try to limit excessive torque on it.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

Ironically enough, while watching the Leaf feed tonight, the Leaf announcers were talking about Johan Hedberg and said he makes a fine backup but when given the full time duties he sucks. He will nothing more than a career backup...because he can't elevate his game when he is "the man".

We will see how Ellis reacts to this same exact situation.

 

[Unsustainable]

I think with any knee ligament tear, you will always feel something from it. Similarly, I don't think you ever forget an injury because you always remember what caused you pain/to miss starts. Soreness is the main thing I have heard, and something I still encounter, especially with atmospheric pressure drops. I know it's going to rain tomorrow because my knee gets sore.

As for lingering effects, I don't think anything besides soreness will occur. The ligament gets back to strength once it heals. I wasn't really ever given a rehab plan, something I'm still a bit displeased about...but a lot of it is psychological regarding the future. You have to trust that your knee is healed, and that you can do everything you used to do. For me, I try not to let it affect my play. However, when anything iffy happens to my right knee, I immediately question how my MCL is and if it's ok. I still make the same moves and blocks I used to, I just try to limit excessive torque on it.

I can tell weather due to my arthritis.

 

[MD]

I got this guys.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

I got this guys.

Sweet!

You can start off by destroying Bufflatucky

 

[Citizen Cane]

I can't believe only playing 1 game in Dallas before he was traded in 2004, or that he lost his job to Rinne in 2010 are better indicators of what to expect than how he's played for us this season.

Some of these guys who would be 'decent' starters just float around for a while, either being a backup on a good team, or the starter on a bad team. But if they ever find their way into being the starter on a good team again, they play well. I'm predicting that's what we see here. The guy seems to have the tools, and the Canes have the ability to provide some goal support. Should equal success.

You know, that description sounds a bit like what people said about martin gerber when we signed him.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I will say this: Barring a miracle, this eliminates Ward's already slim chances of making the Olympic team next year.

And by miracle, I mean "having the greatest start to next season he's ever had".

 

[Anton Babchuk]

And by miracle, I mean "having the greatest start to next season he's ever had".

So like a .910sv%?

 

[dammit100]

he's had 4 seasons of at least .915, c'mon man!

 

[Nolan11]

Sharks fan here, and rookie poster. Sorry to hear about Ward. You guys are clearly the team to beat in your division. How is your confidence in your goal-tending with Ward out so long? Are you hoping for a goalie rental (to go with you reported hope for veteren defense help?) We are strong in both areas and need young top 9 forwards with a reasonable shot. We have been good trade partners in the past (well, except for what you charged us for Wallin, but I can't blame you for our over-payment).

 

[DaveG]

Most of us have faith in Ellis, he's been a starter before and a pretty good one at that. Peters has been ripping it up for Charlotte and is one of the big reasons they're where they are in the AHL standings this year despite all the injuries and callups.

I think what most of us want at this point is someone who's capable playing in Charlotte now that Ward's out. Muse is solid but rather unproven at that level. But beyond him? there's absolutely nothing. Sucks that Mike Murphy left on such bad terms and that Andersen spurned the Canes this past season as both would be in position to be #1 in Charlotte right now if not to be the callup instead of Peters. I don't think many of us are looking for someone outstanding, actually probably closer to someone that would be available for futures but that is at least a capable AHLer. We don't need a star there, since Ward should be back for the playoffs if that timetable is accurate. We just need someone that can keep Charlotte from falling off the face of the earth until Peters can be sent back down.

edit: won't be surprised if they take the NCAA FA route once that season is over shortly here. Someone like Andy Iles (Cornell), Eric Hartzell (Quinipiac), or Casey DeSmith (UNH) would not surprise me in the least. Most likely one of the later two to be perfectly honest.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Most of us have faith in Ellis, he's been a starter before and a pretty good one at that. Peters has been ripping it up for Charlotte and is one of the big reasons they're where they are in the AHL standings this year despite all the injuries and callups.

I think what most of us want at this point is someone who's capable playing in Charlotte now that Ward's out. Muse is solid but rather unproven at that level. But beyond him? there's absolutely nothing. Sucks that Mike Murphy left on such bad terms and that Andersen spurned the Canes this past season as both would be in position to be #1 in Charlotte right now if not to be the callup instead of Peters. I don't think many of us are looking for someone outstanding, actually probably closer to someone that would be available for futures but that is at least a capable AHLer. We don't need a star there, since Ward should be back for the playoffs if that timetable is accurate. We just need someone that can keep Charlotte from falling off the face of the earth until Peters can be sent back down.

edit: won't be surprised if they take the NCAA FA route once that season is over shortly here. Someone like Andy Iles (Cornell), Eric Hartzell (Quinipiac), or Casey DeSmith (UNH) would not surprise me in the least. Most likely one of the later two to be perfectly honest.

I'm thinking it'll be Andy Iles. He was at our prospect camp this past summer so there's already a relationship with the organization and I don't see there being too much demand for him. I don't think he really has any nhl potential but I'd like him to help out in Charlotte. They had a good thing going until we raided their roster.

 

[Nolan11]

I think what most of us want at this point is someone who's capable playing in Charlotte now that Ward's out. Muse is solid but rather unproven at that level. But beyond him? there's absolutely nothing.

edit: won't be surprised if they take the NCAA FA route once that season is over shortly here. Someone like Andy Iles (Cornell), Eric Hartzell (Quinipiac), or Casey DeSmith (UNH) would not surprise me in the least. Most likely one of the later two to be perfectly honest.

Thank you for your insight. Sounds like my thought of a Greiss ++ for one of your top 9 forwards is a non-starter. You don't really need NHL caliber back-up (unless Ellis proves you wrong over next few weeks). We do have three AHL caliber goalies that we have problems finding enough playing time. Maybe Rutherford calls Wilson about our JP Anderson. But sounds more likely they tough it out in the A until the NCAA season ends.

Hope Ward has a speedy recovery.

 

[Chrispy]

I'm thinking it'll be Andy Iles. He was at our prospect camp this past summer so there's already a relationship with the organization and I don't see there being too much demand for him. I don't think he really has any nhl potential but I'd like him to help out in Charlotte. They had a good thing going until we raided their roster.

It had not occurred to me this would be an option. With Cornell's season ending in the next few days, Iles makes sense as a FA signing. New Hampshire and Quinnipiac could take longer as they may make the NCAA tournament.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Sucks that Mike Murphy left on such bad terms and that Andersen spurned the Canes this past season as both would be in position to be #1 in Charlotte right now if not to be the callup instead of Peters.

If we had Murphy or Andersen, we would not have signed Ellis. Both would be competing with Peters (or whoever JR could find in desperation) for the #1 job.

"prospect graveyard"

 

[Lazyking]

Thank you for your insight. Sounds like my thought of a Greiss ++ for one of your top 9 forwards is a non-starter. You don't really need NHL caliber back-up (unless Ellis proves you wrong over next few weeks). We do have three AHL caliber goalies that we have problems finding enough playing time. Maybe Rutherford calls Wilson about our JP Anderson. But sounds more likely they tough it out in the A until the NCAA season ends.

Hope Ward has a speedy recovery.

I don't think the Canes can afford to trade any of the forwards anyway.. Besides, a top 9 forward on this team doesn't mean much when we only have 5 good forwards.

I'm a Sharks fan as well and we're better off looking elsewhere for offensive help.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Maybe Mahalak gets a shot when Plymouth's season ends? Can they sign him to an ATO before his entry level deal gets signed?

Edit: In Charlotte obviously.

 

[Lucky Lindy]

To the one wondering where Gerber plays, he is playing here in Sweden, with Rögle BK (or Rogle for you). Last place in regular season and preparing for a playoff-series.

 

[DaveG]

If we had Murphy or Andersen, we would not have signed Ellis. Both would be competing with Peters (or whoever JR could find in desperation) for the #1 job.

"prospect graveyard"

Hadn't thought about that angle. Probably right about that.

Only makes Murphy's comments all the more laughable. McBain (Albany but our staff), Nash, Dwyer (Albany but our staff), Peters, Bowman, Sanguinetti.

one hell of a prospect graveyard.

 

[Sasha Cares]

we've had our big share of prospect deaths too

 

[Joe McGrath]

we've had our big share of prospect deaths too

Like every other team in the league.

 

[Unsustainable]

Like every other team in the league.

That's why they are prospects, most of the difference between NHL and AHL is mental.

 

[Sasha Cares]

I'm just saying, I've not been real happy with Daple or Boychuk's development... Who's to blame? I don't know... We haven't really developed a star in long time from our system have we? I mean Skinner came right in, Staal too, Ward too...