Player Discussion Vincent Desharnais
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TopShelfGloveSide
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I mean that LA playoff series was still really ugly.
Jimmi McJenkins
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I will still contend, without the match fixing that happened in that series, the Oilers win it in 5. This year's team wins it in 3.
I agree, at the time I agreed with almost all the posts never wanting to see him play for us again.
Becoming steadier and steadier.
Love him now, but worried he might turn into a pumpkin at some point.
I'd give him a short-deal for $1.2.
If he wants $2 he can walk. I'd take the over on him turning back into a pumpkin on another team.
Love him now, but worried he might turn into a pumpkin at some point.
I'd give him a short-deal for $1.2.
If he wants $2 he can walk. I'd take the over on him turning back into a pumpkin on another team.
bucks_oil
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$513K... cannot be correct. He's played 79 NHL games (at $762K per season) not to mention his time in the AHL and ECHL.
But your point stands, this is a guy who needs to set himself up... not for life, but certainly for flexibility after his playing days. I expect he's a guy that gets back into the game in some fashion. You can't be as strong as he is defensively without having some serious hockey sense.
I agree with others, give him 8 years at $1.25M, worst case you bury him in the AHL and let him player-coach the kids (with very minimal cap influence). How can a guy who's lived his journey turn down a guaranteed $10M?
EDIT: also, I disagree with "turn back into a pumpkin". Lowetide has been a big fan for years, but this is a guy who came out of college, was an outscorer in the ECHL, then a HUGE outscorer (like 67%!!) in the AHL. This huge, lumbering, sometimes awkward looking defender has done nothing but defend well at every level he's played... his long journey here had everything to do with his draft order and the general disadvantage defense-only guys are at... he needed to prove it at every level and that takes time... but it wasn't an accident or a fluke that he got here.
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bucks_oil
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Why do you need your $1.2M deal to be short term? If you know you are competing with 2-3 years x $2M you can easily beat it. Up to $1.125M can be buried in the AHL, so $75K in dead cap if things don't work out is completely negligible.
There are teams that will offer him $2.5 mil per for a 3-4 year deal. UFA.
oXo Cube
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If there are, they can have him. One Kulak is annoying enough.
bucks_oil
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You think that high and that long? I'd be surprised. I'm thinking the competition will be a total contract value around 5-6M over 2-3 years. He doesn't have a lot of reps yet at the NHL level.
Who knows. I think that some team will make an offer to him that the Oilers wont' be able to match. A right handed solid PK D-man.
Leafs had their eyes on him last year. I bet that the Leafs offer him something big that the Oilers can't match.
bucks_oil
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Yeah maybe... I doubt the Leafs though. They will be at $67M with 13 players signed... they need to sign 4 forwards, 4 defenders and a goalie... essentially the entire middle of their lineup.
Unless they see Desharnais as a middle pairing, it's tough to see them having $2.5M left over for a bottom pairing guy (and I mean that as charitably as possible... I'm a big fan).
I can see close to that it if he keeps playing how he is (I was thinking 2M). RHD, notably defensively inclined ones, are rare in the league. A lot is on how he handles the playoffs this year.
TheNumber4
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So lets offer him 1.5M x 8 years. He'll make more this way and have the security that with his low cap hit he likely won't ever get squeezed out of an NHL Job.
Stoneman89
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No offence to Vinny, but why are we offering bottom pairing soon to be 28 year old dmen 8 year deals?
If we offer him a 8 year deal that can fully be buried.
Who cares.
Him taking it is a different story
Jimmi McJenkins
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I love Vinny and I want the team to re-sign him, but a strong part of me assumes he's going to want to explore Free Agency. A thing I don't know he expected to be so significant even 2 years ago.
La Bamba
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If they did, I'd be happy for him. Call up Kemp afterwards
TheNumber4
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So that our 3rd pair is secured for the next 3-5 years and maybe more. And if not more its a small price to pay for the near term cap savings.
Vinny you're getting 8M.
Over 8 years tho
Sign here, yours truly, Connor
Over 8 years tho
Sign here, yours truly, Connor
Jimmi McJenkins
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Hell I'd give him $10M over 8 in a heartbeat. I think he's going to get more in less years on the open market.
I could, sincerely, see the Flames giving him 4 yrs and $3.5M per, or the Hawks.
DingDongCharlie
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I want to keep Desharnais now, but at 3.5m I'd love watching Calgary make bonehead plays with their cap space.
Louis Cypher
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I disagree. Unless he gets a very low offer I think he is
1. Loyal
2. Wants to win
3. Loves playing here.
If not try Kemp.
