Player Discussion: Vesalainen Thread
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Too young to tell.
Had over a half a point per game in the KHL two seasons ago and half a point per game in the AHL this last season.
He is 6' 4" and 230 lbs and supposedly possesses an NHL calibre shot so, I wouldn't be giving up on him yet.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him start on the Jets halfway through next season.
Had over a half a point per game in the KHL two seasons ago and half a point per game in the AHL this last season.
He is 6' 4" and 230 lbs and supposedly possesses an NHL calibre shot so, I wouldn't be giving up on him yet.
I wouldn't be surprised to see him start on the Jets halfway through next season.
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Big, heavy F’s seem like they take longer to get into their mold.
I still think he is going to be a beast.
I still think he is going to be a beast.
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Typo, meant to write F, but was having a conversation with a friend about Heinola, so mixed it all up.
DAMN, the amount of times I have made my self look silly on here, because of bad multitasking.
You and me bothTypo, meant to write F, but was having a conversation with a friend about Heinola, so mixed it all up.
DAMN, the amount of times I have made my self look silly on here, because of bad multitasking.
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Depends on the game they played coming up through their development - he's never played a heavy game so yes, he'd need more time to determine if he can play heavy - but I don't think heavy forwards need more time (in general).
I personally don't see him becoming a "beast" - but I'd love to see him at least move in that direction.
What if he's Wheeler 2.0 and takes a few years to hit his stride?
He absolutely may. Hopefully then he's hitting his full stride just as Wheeler's stride is beginning to fail him. My fear in that scenario is that coaching staff impatience means that he risks being sidelined in favour of moar creaky-but-gud vetness. Chevy needs to pinky-swear that he will never again buy in another Borque-level player to "energize the room," and make it the rule that our best prospects get the chance to learn on the job, even if that job is a few minutes a night on the 4th.
Kaako Kappo
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Yup. I'm just trying to preach patience. I expect our 10th OA pick this year will take a couple of years to get to the NHL so why the hurry to give up on a 24th OA pick that is having his game style developed and changed? Sure, it would be great for Vesalainen to have broken down the door a year or two ago but it didn't happen. Kid is playing pretty well in the A and developing nicely.
Even if he only turns into a bruising 3rd liner with some scoring touch that's still a win. We hope for more and obviously Wheeler would be the dream ceiling.
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I don't think Wheeler has spent that much time near the ceiling when he hasn't had a good power play scaffolding in place. Mostly, he sits in the comfy recliner now, occasionally threatening the young-uns with, don't make me get out of this chair!
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With the correct linemates, and toi management, I think he will flourish in the NHL.
Like makar says, lots of players had better numbers in the NHL compared to their AHL.
Lesser league doesn’t always mean better production.
Like makar says, lots of players had better numbers in the NHL compared to their AHL.
Lesser league doesn’t always mean better production.
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My expectations are that he continues to grow his game on the Moose this season. As long as he is committed to improving I think Vincent and his staff do a good job of developing prospects. Hopefully he is healthy and has a good season.
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I though he looked more or less invisible in last year's training camp. The games I saw, he was not engaged and was an easy cut from camp.
Not speculating on his future abilities, just an observation of what I saw last year. He's young enough to not worry about this yet.
Not speculating on his future abilities, just an observation of what I saw last year. He's young enough to not worry about this yet.
It was a mistake for KV AND Heinola to go back to Europe for a year.
Both should have went to the Moose.
Both should have went to the Moose.
Kaako Kappo
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Was it a mistake for Aho and Heiskanen, too? Or maybe it has more to do with the players abilities rather than where they played. These players and their development aren't as fragile as you think.
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Versa-Laine is going to be more like Karl Klingberg 2.0 than anything close to Wheeler 2.0, write it in pen!
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Aho and Heiskanen, and what they did or didn't do, don't enter into this. This isn't a discussion about whether Finns should stay in North America. It's about these two Jets players specifically, and whether going back to play in Europe was beneficial. I don't think it was. They both seemed to regress from what I've read. I think they would have benefited to integrate with the organization, and develop in an environment that is closer in style to where one would assume they hope to establish a career. Instead, they chose to make a little more money for one year, and maybe have the comforts of Mommy's home cooking and laundry services. Colour me not impressed.
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Honest mistake, everyone forgets the Jet/Thrashers drafted the wrong Klingberg!
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