Player Discussion Valeri Nichushkin

[Dr Pepper]

Oh absolutely....give Nuke the abundance of PP time that Chiasson had (tops among rookies), and who knows, maybe he would've at least sniffed a Calder nomination. Or at the very least, improved our special teams stats.

 

[MetalGodAOD*]

He was getting second unit PP time, he just wasn't very effective with it. He probably should be a guy down low as opposed to up top next year. Let him bull his way to the net.

 

[Satan]

Oh absolutely....give Nuke the abundance of PP time that Chiasson had (tops among rookies), and who knows, maybe he would've at least sniffed a Calder nomination. Or at the very least, improved our special teams stats.

Except he was quite loose with the puck

 

[haf]

Except he was quite loose with the puck

He was but I read that as exhaustion. Ruff definitely worked to find a happy spot for Nuke's minutes. Hopefully with a break and some training, we can get his minutes up next year.

 

[Satan]

Exhaustion, lack of strength... Whatever you wanna call it he still needs to develop his puck handling skills.

 

[ElGuapo]

There were times when his puck handling skills were outstanding. Either he just needs to work on consistency with it or it was due to being tired mentally as much as physically.

 

[Mr Misty]

There were times when his puck handling skills were outstanding. Either he just needs to work on consistency with it or it was due to being tired mentally as much as physically.

IIRC he spent a lot of time on the half wall in Ribeiro land, which does not play to his strengths as a hockey player.

 

[oconnor9sean]

I know all facts go against it, but that stupid Russian story about Val hating Dallas has planted that one stray seed in my mind.

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

I know all facts go against it, but that stupid Russian story about Val hating Dallas has planted that one stray seed in my mind.

No reason to let it. As you said, every fact that we know of has gone against it.

Even the little things, like him sitting for a game or him being put on the 4th line have either been his decision or Ruff's after talking to him.

Extremely excited to see what he brings to the table with a full off season and year under his belt in the big leagues.

 

[ginblossoms]

if that story had any legs, it would be all over hfboards... now, i haven't combed over every thread around here, but this is the only place i've seen it discussed. to my understanding, it also hasn't been corroborated by any other reputable journalist.

 

[Johno]

I know all facts go against it, but that stupid Russian story about Val hating Dallas has planted that one stray seed in my mind.

Id like to quote this one English rock band:

"Paranoia is in bloom..."






[for the interested party]

 

[BigG44]

The Detroit Red Wings had Val ranked 3rd in last year's draft:

Mike Morreale ‏@mikemorrealeNHL

Stars Dir of amateur scouting Joe McDonnell told me he had Val Nichushkin No. 3 on his draft list last yr when still with the Red Wings.

 

[glovesave_35]

The Detroit Red Wings had Val ranked 3rd in last year's draft:

Hopefully all these guys are/were right. Sounds like the collective brain trust (that we raided) up in Detroit just loved the guy. Nieuwendyk probably wouldn't have raised an eyebrow at all with him on the board still.

 

[Hull Fan]

Hopefully all these guys are/were right. Sounds like the collective brain trust (that we raided) up in Detroit just loved the guy. Nieuwendyk probably wouldn't have raised an eyebrow at all with him on the board still.

Domi. Those bloodlines.

He's not a bad pick but just like Vancouver is going to regret taking a 3C instead of a 1st line winger, Nieuwendyk would have passed on Nichushkin and the franchise would be the worse for it. Not sad Nieuwy is gone.

 

[ColeJ]

love nieuwy as a player, and he did a good job setting us up for success as short-term GM.

he always was more of an assist man than a finisher.

 

[wunderpanda]

Just want to say I was wrong back in October, Nich looked great under Ruff. congrats on a good season.

 

[MetalGodAOD*]

Ralph Strangis ‏@RalphStrangis 1h

Greatest 5th of July car wash ever! #val43 and he looks ripped. pic.twitter.com/HWk2NsP1Ji

Val still hanging around Dallas.

 

[Klockis]

When is he going to flee back to the KHL?

 

[MBTendy]

Saw the pic earlier, thats pretty awesome. Looks like he is here to stay.

Also got bored and decided to make an NHL 15 cover of Val

Came out pretty badass ... although the resolution is pretty low compared to the saved version on my laptop. If anyone knows a good site to upload a picture at its full resolution I would be able to share it with y'all.

 

[Satan]

The ps4 version rules dude

 

[MBTendy]

The ps4 version rules dude

Nahhhh Xbox1

 

[SonicSpeedDash]

That'd be a sweet poster. PS4 4 life!!

 

[RefalancheStillLose]

Hopefully all these guys are/were right. Sounds like the collective brain trust (that we raided) up in Detroit just loved the guy. Nieuwendyk probably wouldn't have raised an eyebrow at all with him on the board still.

What makes you think Newy would've passed on him?
Because you didn't like Newy or because you want to give Nill credit for something that really didn't involve him?

Nill had the same Scouts during that Draft that Newy would have. No reason to assume the draft would've played out any differently.

Newy listened to his scouts, Campbell over Fowler for instance. If they'd of told him, he's the BPA by a lot a potential "franchise" guy, there isn't one shred of evidence to suggest Newy would've passed on him.

Just because you don't agree with how the draft boards went with Newy as GM of previous years doesn't mean anything.

Scouts analyze and rank the players and report that to the GM. No GM in there right mind is like "**** you guys, guys we pay a lot of money to tell me who's the best, I'm taking this Canadian or American kid who's less talented because i say so"

People try so hard to discredit what Nieuwendyk did because the Scouts didn't follow the CSS rankings.

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

What makes you think Newy would've passed on him?

Because he never would've picked a Russian. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

 

[MetalGodAOD*]

What makes you think Newy would've passed on him?
Because you didn't like Newy or because you want to give Nill credit for something that really didn't involve him?

Nill had the same Scouts during that Draft that Newy would have. No reason to assume the draft would've played out any differently.

Newy listened to his scouts, Campbell over Fowler for instance. If they'd of told him, he's the BPA by a lot a potential "franchise" guy, there isn't one shred of evidence to suggest Newy would've passed on him.

Just because you don't agree with how the draft boards went with Newy as GM of previous years doesn't mean anything.

Scouts analyze and rank the players and report that to the GM. No GM in there right mind is like "**** you guys, guys we pay a lot of money to tell me who's the best, I'm taking this Canadian or American kid who's less talented because i say so"

People try so hard to discredit what Nieuwendyk did because the Scouts didn't follow the CSS rankings.

Joe didn't listen to the scouts when they told him to pick Kulikov, instead going with Glennie. He set a precedent of non-Russian draft picks under his regime.