Rumor: USA Today - Penguins Very Very interested in Dan Hamhuis

[Rufus]

No, NO, NO rentals. You don't win with rentals . This is hockey history 101.

LA and Gaborik? Chicago and Vermette? Plenty of teams have won with rentals

 

[orby]

Unless he could be had super cheap - like, Kunitz +2nd cheap - I don't think this would be a smart acquisition. The defense is not going to transform into a force to be reckoned with simply via the addition of Hamhuis. the Pens are better served trying to win with what they have rather than giving up prospects and picks for a rental when they're already dangerously low on young talent and not picking until round 2 this year.

 

[deathtouchtrample]

Why would you listen someone who works for USAtoday on any topic? Outside of tabloids it's the worst periodical out there. Like nothing they do is even close to journalism.

 

[Mordax]

Page 5 of this thread delivered.

 

[plaidchuck]

I have zero issue moving Pouliot, but it won't be for a ****ing rental.

My point exactly, they wouldn't give him up for kessel, so obviously theres an organizational mandate to keep him off the table.

 

[SEALBound]

Page 5 of this thread delivered.

I conduct TWO half hour safety meetings and I miss ALL that.

When I read about interesting in Ladd, Hamhuis, and Prust...and think about what the TDL might be like:

 

[OnMyOwn]

Why do people even mention TIOPS

Just cuz it's **** to talk about. No different than if one of us has an idea and we discuss it. Taking it to heart is another thing, though.

 

[ColePens]

Boy... I was just catching up in this thread and can say... GOLD. Page 5 is GOLD.

As for DH.. nope.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

I vote Mr Wilson for GM and IcedCapp as AssGM

Only if Jiggy is our head scout.

 

[IcedCapp]

Only if Jiggy is our head scout.

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[PensandCaps]

No worries I didn't take it as rude, I just wanted to get a feel of Pens assets since the media is reporting that they are heavily In on a player.

As great as Hamhuis is I don't think he will fetch Dustin Byfuglien kind of return.

Comparable would be Sekera last year at trade deadline and Hamhuis is 10x better than Sekera who was also an upcoming UFA. LA gave up 1st rnd pick and Roland Macewon.

Pouliot
2017 1st rnd pick

Should get it done for Hamhuis.

Not sure if you would like the price tho but if a bidding war for Hamhuis happens then all likelihood that will be the cost.

Dmen are always the most coveted at trade deadline.

Good luck with that! Pooh AND a 1st??? Youd get neither.

 

[PensandCaps]

This is the same GM that gave sutter 4.25 million. Not too worried about giving up anything important. Benning is dumb as rocks.

 

[Farnham4top6]

This is the same GM that gave sutter 4.25 million. Not too worried about giving up anything important. Benning is dumb as rocks.

One never knows if the evil nine wants to triumph the Despres trade.
They could trade Dumoulin + Bennett or something ******** for him.

 

[PensandCaps]

One never knows if the evil nine wants to triumph the Despres trade.
They could trade Dumoulin + Bennett or something ******** for him.

But dumo is just as good as ham. And cheaper and is a RFA in a year. If we give up dumo for ham, im done. Baxk to back years of throwing away a young top4 dman will kill me.

 

[Farnham4top6]

But dumo is just as good as ham. And cheaper and is a RFA in a year. If we give up dumo for ham, im done. Baxk to back years of throwing away a young top4 dman will kill me.

I know, but they traded Despres that is better then them for Lovejoy who isn't a NHL dman who seem to only try to injure MAF.

 

[lettuceAA]

I'd do lovejoy or Cole for Hamhius. Anything else, of course not.

 

[Jacob]

Our only assets are Sprong, Pouliot or Murray. Not worth it. They're literally *all* we have in the cupboard. We can already be pretty sure Hamhuis won't re-sign here.

 

[billybudd]

Only if Jiggy is our head scout.

Crosby would blow his brains out if he was asked to center a line between Mason Raymond and Ales Hemsky.

 

[Cherpak]

Okay look, i think you need to get a firm grasp on something that, despite your protestations to the contrary, I don't think you get:

this is not the front office of the Pittsburgh Penguins Ice Hockey Team.

We couldn't tell you if the GM will be fired for a variety of different outcomes. We can't tell you his level of interest in player A or player B.

We can't agree to a trade that makes your team 150% better today than it was yesterday.

You want a chat:

THE PENS ARE INTERESTED IN DAN HAMHUIS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER?

A) nothing, because it's not mine to offer
B) Probably nothing your team wants, because the Pens have no fungible assets to spare, especially for what will almost assuredly be a rental.

This is the most perfect argument for not having a Trade and Free agent section to HF boards. You could apply this to all 30 teams and their fans with just this.

 

[HandshakeLine]

This is the most perfect argument for not having a Trade and Free agent section to HF boards. You could apply this to all 30 teams and their fans with just this.

I mean, people want to discuss it, cool.

But they usually don't want to discuss it. Nor do they get that it's all just hypothetical speculation. My favorite is when they point to what their fanbase wants for a trade as some sort of weird price tag. Like, no **** we all way deals that are super-favorable to our own team.

Fans are terrible at predicting these sorts of things. Absolutely ****ing terrible.

 

[Darth Vitale]

So you want our top prospect AND a 1st for a guy who likely has no interest in re-signing here.

Seems like a smart move on our part.

Yeah, that is just awful.

Yeah, truly that was an off-the-wall proposal.

Canucks board seem to be satisfied w:

Dumoulin
2- 2nd rnd picks.

Not much better. I mean Hammy is a decent D but you don't move a solid D and decent futures for the guy, especially as a rental.

 

[Darth Vitale]

That said, would you guys freak out if I closed this? We're talking about the same stuff in the main FA / Acquisitions thread. I don't see how this guy deserves a separate thread, although I understand why it was made initially (because of the news report).

 

[Saints11]

Close this, it has become redundant.

 

[Gold Diamond]

Other than page 5, reading this thread gave me AIDS.

Close it, please.

 

[Gurglesons]

Close this thread and may we never speak of Hamhuis again.