I don't blame Armstrong for this, though. Letting Rattie go is completely different from squandering assets. Rattie was once a fairly valuable asset, yes, but his decrease in value has nothing to do with Armstrong - his decrease in value is due to him not seizing his opportunities and not proving to be an NHL player. On the other hand, Shattenkirk's decrease in value has everything to do with Armstrong and his failure to move Shattenkirk sooner. Armstrong opted to keep the kid who still has potential on a very cheap, RFA contract - sometimes these kids pan out, and sometimes they don't. Thus far, Rattie hasn't panned out. I hope he does.
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I don't blame Armstrong for this, though. Letting Rattie go is completely different from squandering assets. Rattie was once a fairly valuable asset, yes, but his decrease in value has nothing to do with Armstrong - his decrease in value is due to him not seizing his opportunities and not proving to be an NHL player. On the other hand, Shattenkirk's decrease in value has everything to do with Armstrong and his failure to move Shattenkirk sooner. Armstrong opted to keep the kid who still has potential on a very cheap, RFA contract - sometimes these kids pan out, and sometimes they don't. Thus far, Rattie hasn't panned out. I hope he does.
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Oh its on Armstrong, his job is to maximize assets and he failed to do so. Like I said I get it and this single mistake is one that is understandable/acceptable but in the big picture the pile of wasted assets got bigger again today.
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Hitchcock's usage of Rattie has actually been an issue though. It's apparent that Hitch doesn't like the way Rattie plays.
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Rattie had opportunities with top 9 players, he just didn't do anything with them. You could argue that Paajarvi and Yakupov had more opportunities, and I'd agree that Rattie should've been give more like them, but he still didn't do anything with the opportunities that he had. At least Jaskin can be physical and win board battles.
I'm making a distinction here - if Rattie produced this year, then Armstrong maximized an asset. I get what you're saying, but it's revisionist history, 20/20 hindsight. I think Armstrong completely botched letting two of Backes and Brouwer go for nothing, and he will have made a collosal mistake in not trading Shattenkirk (I doubt he trades him). I just think it's different with Rattie - Rattie determined whether or not his value would be maximized, not Armstrong.
Yes and no, he did something with his opportunity last year and was scratched anyway.
4 goals in 8 games should have earned him more games.
I think when you do that "I'm not gonna get a chance no matter what" starts to creep in.
4 goals in 8 and one of them was in the last game before he was scratched.
Thats just not the right way to do it IMO.
With just a total of ~29 minutes played in 4 games, with the most being 8:01 min, I don't think he got a fair chance in STL. Certainly understand we don't see/evaluate his performance in practice etc. But that's rough.
Hope he gets a chance in CAR.
Hope he gets a chance in CAR.
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I agree, and even if he turns into nothing I think it creates a poor culture. Guys scoring goals let him play until he stops.
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There are 5 teams below the Canes in the standings, and then we're in a 6-way tie for the next spot. I don't know how the tiebreakers work with this stuff, but among those six teams we're tied with Nashville for the fewest GP and we're tied with Vancouver for the 3rd fewest ROW.
So depending how they calculate the tiebreak, you could say we're anywhere from 6th to 11th in line.
Had 4 goals in 13 games last year. Hard to reason why 5-6 over 82 would be his ceiling.
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2 of those goals were complete flukes that bounced in off of him. Not deflections, just lucky enough to have it hit him and go in instead of being blocked shots. I guess there's something to be said for generating offense, even if it was unintentional, but considering his inability to win a board battle against anyone, it wasn't surprising to see him back in the pressbox when we got healthier.
Should he have gotten more of a chance based on his stat line? Maybe. Whole picture didn't look good at any point with the Blues.
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2 of those were deflected in off his body, 1 was into an open net after the goalie turned it over, and 1 was a pretty good snipe from about 15 feet out. I'd say his ceiling is 10 goals/season.
izzy
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I don't care how they go in, let it take its course IMO.
I don't want my young players worried about how they score the goals....just score them and you will be rewarded period. 4 goals in 8 games and your doing something right.
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So true. I think he has 1 career NHL goal that actually came off his stick.
He's a nice sub that can come in when a skill guy is hurt. He'll never be a regular. He's too slow.
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