TSN Top-50 Players

[wintersej]

Marchand isn't better than Bergeron.

 

[b in vancouver]

There's a few things on the list that jump out.

Foremost though is Getzlaf and Bergeron seem low to me. Maybe not for much longer but if I was going into this season, they'd both be in that upper-tier of players I'd want to help my team win. Not as flashy, and I can understand TSN wanting to add some kids to the list and bring in different positions but they're still two of the most effective players in the league.

 

[b in vancouver]

Marchand isn't better than Bergeron.

I was going to use that as an example for my last post. The perfect illustration of how they went for flash over substance. Two guys who play on the same line together. Marchand had a fantastic year and put up a tonne of points - but Bergeron is just a better player.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

every carolina player should be moved down at least 20 spots

 

[BruinsBtn]

oh if goals are everything then you must think Matthews should be ranked even higher?

I don't mind his ranking. He's a great player. But he's not behind anyone who he literally had 2.5x more goals than

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I don't mind his ranking. He's a great player. But he's not behind anyone who he literally had 2.5x more goals than

That's fair. Personally I think Nylander should have made it over Marner if it had to be a Leafs player.

 

[zeke]

Matthews is a perfect hockey player with zero flaws, who finished 2nd in the league in goals and 6th in the league in primary points. As a rookie.

Of course he's a top-10 player.

 

[nowhereman]

True. I'd put him @ 8. He has a bigger impact on Toronto than Hedman/Burns have on TBL/SJ. Good one for catching that one.

Stop being so biased. Matthews is not a top 10 player in the NHL and you know it.

The kid finished 20th in scoring, still has a lot to learn on the defensive side of things and has never done anything in the playoffs beyond getting a taste of the first round. Does that sound like the kind of player who should be ranked ahead of Benn, Tavares, Doughty, Getzlaf, Bergeron, Backstrom, Kopitar, etc?

 

[CokenoPepsi]

My boy johnny toews finally getting the rating he should have been getting in his prime

 

[ACC1224]

Matthews is a perfect hockey player with zero flaws, who finished 2nd in the league in goals and 6th in the league in primary points. As a rookie.

Of course he's a top-10 player.

He should be higher

 

[Empoleon8771]

Matthews is so good that he should be rated at 0. He's so much better than everyone else that he needs to have his own tier, and then the real rankings start.

 

[leafsfan1234]

Goaltenders shouldn't be included in these rankings and Matthews/Laine are too low.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Stop being so biased. Matthews is not a top 10 player in the NHL and you know it.

The kid finished 20th in scoring, still has a lot to learn on the defensive side of things and has never done anything in the playoffs beyond getting a taste of the first round. Does that sound like the kind of player who should be ranked ahead of Benn, Tavares, Doughty, Getzlaf, Bergeron, Backstrom, Kopitar, etc?

 

[ChiefWiggum]

Kucherov shouldn't be ahead of Burns who shouldn't be ahead of Hedman. Matthews over Backstrom and Tavares? Can't wait until Tavares signs a one year deal with the Leafs and skyrockets to number 4.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Matthews 10th, Laine 26th.

This is the most biased listing I have seen in a long time. Absolutely terrible. Not reliable.

Lmao knew this was coming, you Finnish boys will never get over this. Matthews won the Calder in a landslide, move on already.

 

[DFC]

Kucherov shouldn't be ahead of Burns who shouldn't be ahead of Hedman. Matthews over Backstrom and Tavares? Can't wait until Tavares signs a one year deal with the Leafs and skyrockets to number 4.

As a TB fan, I'd swap Kuch and Hedman too. But it's a razor thin margin between these two. TSN having them so close is pretty impressive, really. I think if you were to poll TB fans on who's the better player, Hedman would eek out a win. Great to see them both inside the top 10 though. They deserve to be there.

Now... Let's see TB stay healthy for a year. (Looking at you, Stammer. )

 

[Paralyzer]

Disagree, he was 2nd in the NHL in goals, and top 10 in many, many metrics. Unless you are measuring only points, then that is different, but as an all around player, I think at the end of the year he will be higher.

I think he is exactly where he should be. Maybe a few places lower.

 

[NEWFowler]

I hate how this message board is making me despise Auston Matthews. Seems like a good kid and a great hockey player, but you guys are seriously insufferable.

 

[TDK67]

"If you ran into an a**hole in the morning, you ran into an a**hole. If you run into a**holes all day, you're the a**hole." - Raylan Givens, Justified

What this means for this thread (and other similar threads) is that if you think every NHL player ranking list "is wrong because Matthews is too high", then maybe you're the one that's "wrong" for underrating Matthews.

 

[Muston Atthews]

I hate how this message board is making me despise Auston Matthews. Seems like a good kid and a great hockey player, but you guys are seriously insufferable.

That must suck

 

[Regal]

Lol at McDavid over Crosby because of 1 season. Why was Kane not ranked 1st going into last season like McDavid is ranked 1st now? There was a bigger divide between Kane and Crosby in 2015-2016 than McDavid and Crosby in 2016-2017.

I'm pretty sure everyone went over this with you for another list where McDavid was ahead. This is projection for the season and most people think McDavid will only improve. Everyone knew Kane wasnt repeating his season. Both McDavid and Crosby also drive play better than Kane and are much better defensively

 

[BruinsBtn]

"If you ran into an a**hole in the morning, you ran into an a**hole. If you run into a**holes all day, you're the a**hole." - Raylan Givens, Justified

What this means for this thread (and other similar threads) is that if you think every NHL player ranking list "is wrong because Matthews is too high", then maybe you're the one that's "wrong" for underrating Matthews.

By extension, when actual GMs draft your latest new shiny thing #17, maybe they're not wrong?

 

[armani]

I get Mitch Marner is going to be a good player, but I don't see how he is better than Stone or Hoffman atm.

In a vacuum, McDavid is #1, people forget Crosby Malkin's first post season drubbing against the Senators where they lost the series 4-1. I expect him to be even better this year.

I value Karlsson more than Crosby, who deserves number 2 ranking with b2b cups and Conne Smythes.

Also glad to see Patty Kane getting just recognition, I find him forever underrated by Canadian media (Toews anyone?).

It's just a ranking by hockey media at the end, who knows maybe a Matthews or a Laine makes things interesting this year wrt top-5.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

The top 3 are a notch and then some above the rest, this is a part of this list I can agree on.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

By extension, when actual GMs draft your latest new shiny thing #17, maybe they're not wrong?

Maybe, but it's way easier to be accurate with a ranking of nhl players for their performance next year than it is to be accurate with a teenage defenseman from Sweden over his career