Injury Report: Trouba - returned from concussion 03/31

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Of course if Trouba is on the ice for practice you won't have to wait for the update

 

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Any word on Trouba's situation yet?

Can't see Twitter posts, so please post any info directly?

Twitter folks reporting that Trouba is not at practice today.

 

[surixon]

Twitter folks reporting that Trouba is not at practice today.

No surprise. I expect he will be gone at minimum a week probably more.

 

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No surprise. I expect he will be gone at minimum a week probably more.

Pretty sure concussion protocol is a minimum of 7 days

 

[portamoral]

keep him out the rest of the season minimum

 

[Jet]

keep him out the rest of the season minimum

There is no point in doing this. You keep him out until he passes all the tests.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Yes, I agree. Beyond that, though, as much as I want Jake on this team for 4 or 5 years, I would suggest that durability of the player, as heartless as that sounds, will play into contract negotiations.

Is that the reality or am I just being Machiavellian?

At some point, I think injury history becomes an issue. As fans we got pretty tired of Bogo's injuries - and Chevy moved him out. I don't think Trouba is there yet but I certainly hope this isn't going to be his pattern.

If we could sign him today for 6x6 would many, or any, of us say no, he's too injury prone? I doubt it, but another year like this one and people might begin to be concerned.

 

[portamoral]

There is no point in doing this. You keep him out until he passes all the tests.

lol

"tests" mean absolute jack shit

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Was it the Colour guy?

I know I watched (for some stupid reason) Sportsnet highlights later and I got the impression the guys were laughing about it too. Felt like reaching through the TV and choking the little weasels!

I didn't take it as laughing at it. It wasn't like they thought it was a joke. But they were making light of it as though they had never heard the word concussion. I was annoyed.

 

[Bastage]

SN or TSN, what really gets on my nerves are the guys who just ooze anti-Winnipeg sentiment. I'm looking at you Dave Randorf, Rod Black and Glen Suitor. Now Suitor, I can understand somewhat. The guy was a Rider for life and old rivalries die hard. But what's with the other two? Do their "Hi, you probably recognize me, I'm on TV" pickup lines not work in Winnipeg bars?

Rod Black is from Winnipeg.

 

[Jet]

lol

"tests" mean absolute jack ****

Are you actually being serious right now?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

lol

"tests" mean absolute jack ****

So what criteria do you use to determine how long to keep a player out after a concussion? Some miss a week, some a year. Do you favour just throwing darts at a list of possible time periods?

 

[angrymnky]

They also said Benn’s penalty (and the goal) at the end of the first were questionable. It literally ruins my night when I see a game is on sportsnet.

They also didn't think Buff should have gotten a penalty.

 

[Fire Chevy]

I know it was said before in this thread but this could be a blessing in disguise considering the injuries he has had this season hopefully he realizes risking it for the big day doesn’t always pay out and signs a long term contract to secure him financially

 

[SensibleGuy]

lol

"tests" mean absolute jack ****

ok, so if a guy feels completely normal, and there's no indication based on modern medicine that anything specific is wrong anymore, on what basis do you tell him he can't rejoin the line-up?

 

[Dayofthedogs]

The Jacob Trouba saga is going to be an interesting case study on players "betting" on themselves.

At this point I can't help but think the money he hasn't been making by not taking a long term deal will never be recoverable.

He made 5.6 over the 2 years instead of 12 million. That's 6 million dollars.

Between his health, point totals and attitude I can't see his value being any higher than the 6 mil he could have got 2 years ago anyways.

Now if he signs long term so he can a guarantee his financial future he just ends up older (30+) at his first UFA opportunity.

If this was his agents idea, fire him. If this was his family's advice find better advisors. If this was his idea, I applaud your confidence but you probably cost yourself tens of millions in earnings.

 

[portamoral]

So what criteria do you use to determine how long to keep a player out after a concussion? Some miss a week, some a year. Do you favour just throwing darts at a list of possible time periods?

sure there is criteria that should be followed. it's the best we have so far but players are still coming back too soon. there are studies that show it takes far longer than a week or a few for brain function to return to "normal", even after symptoms subside. we need to be even more precautionary than what is currently acceptable in the game today. i'd sit him minimum till the end. we've basically clinched, there is no benefit in not waiting that extra time to maximize the chance he's recovered as much as possible.

 

[Dayofthedogs]

This is probably the right time to remind people that Brain injuries are unique in the fact that it is impossible to determine the severity or length of the injury by watching the incident that caused it.

Every single brain injury is different. You can be knocked out cold and pass all the concussion protocol and show no I'll effects in the short term.

However, You can also take a much less harmful impact to the head and not even realize you've been injured until days later and the recovery may take months.

New research has also suggested that knockout type events don't contribute any more or less to formation of CTE compared to smaller impacts. I.E. frequently getting reapeted blows to the head (think boxers or football linemen/running backs) is actually the main culprit of CTE and even being concussed or rendered unconscious is not the largest worry.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

sure there is criteria that should be followed. it's the best we have so far but players are still coming back too soon. there are studies that show it takes far longer than a week or a few for brain function to return to "normal", even after symptoms subside. we need to be even more precautionary than what is currently acceptable in the game today. i'd sit him minimum till the end. we've basically clinched, there is no benefit in not waiting that extra time to maximize the chance he's recovered as much as possible.

You may have a point but this is not what you said in that previous post.

BTW, those studies use 'tests'.

Picking 'till the end' is entirely arbitrary. It may be unnecessary, or it may be nowhere near enough.

I didn't like the look of him last night. To my layman's eye that looked like a severe concussion. I hope he is not out a lot longer than just till the end of the season.

 

[Dayofthedogs]

sure there is criteria that should be followed. it's the best we have so far but players are still coming back too soon. there are studies that show it takes far longer than a week or a few for brain function to return to "normal", even after symptoms subside. we need to be even more precautionary than what is currently acceptable in the game today. i'd sit him minimum till the end. we've basically clinched, there is no benefit in not waiting that extra time to maximize the chance he's recovered as much as possible.

Studies have also shown 0 side effects over a long period after a loss of consciousness event.

Every single brain injury is different and so are the side effects.

 

[raideralex99]

I want Trouba to resign but if he does not want to be a Winnipeg Jet you cannot force him and I certainly don't want him on the team.

 

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This is probably the right time to remind people that Brain injuries are unique in the fact that it is impossible to determine the severity or length of the injury by watching the incident that caused it.

Every single brain injury is different. You can be knocked out cold and pass all the concussion protocol and show no I'll effects in the short term.

However, You can also take a much less harmful impact to the head and not even realize you've been injured until days later and the recovery may take months.

New research has also suggested that knockout type events don't contribute any more or less to formation of CTE compared to smaller impacts. I.E. frequently getting reapeted blows to the head (think boxers or football linemen/running backs) is actually the main culprit of CTE and even being concussed or rendered unconscious is not the largest worry.

Remember the Zadorov got on Scheifele last year? I was shocked he didn’t have a concussion

 

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I want Trouba to resign but if he does not want to be a Winnipeg Jet you cannot force him and I certainly don't want him on the team.

You can’t force him true. He can always take his talents to Davos

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Is that what happened?? Sheesh.

I never run any volume with those SN guys commentating. I have to figure out how to dial in the US feeds on those games.

I sometimes with there was an option for commentating. I would put that on mute every time.

 

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From Twitter

No news on Trouba yet. He is going to see a specialist later today. #NHLJets