2 million vanek is better than megna, chaput, boucher, gaunce, burmistrov, dorsett. likely rodin, jv and goblin too
TSN: Trevor on TSN 1040: Going after Thomas Vanek, Horvat contract not far off
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This may come as a shock.. but Linden IS smarter than the fans when it comes to the game. And by no small margin.
1300+ games in the NHL over 20 seasons, kinda gives you a qualification that the fans don't have, and perhaps, just perhaps, it gives Trevor some added insight.
I am not saying that Trevor and Benning have done a stellar job, but there is some new talent in the pipeline. Let's see how they handle Horvat. As for going after Vanek? He is a one-dimensional player, that could help address a problem for the team, scoring goals. And might reap some reward at the deadline, which is a strategy used by a number of teams to stock up on draft picks. Neither for or against this move... I do think there are a number of young players who may need additional seasoning in Utica, and not be rushed too quickly,
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You have to remember a lot of fans think Linden and Benning are doing a good job in spite of everything they have done so far saying the opposite. He's probably smarter than those.
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Full Stop. Playing the game and being part of management are two completely different non-transferable skill sets.
To use this as proof to show that Linden is smarter than most fans is asinine.
Ah.. no.. asinine is thinking most fans have the knowledge of the game that a 20-year veteran player brings to the table.
Yes, management is different than playing, but to suggest it is two completely different non-transferable skills is utterly ridiculous. To think someone who played over 1000 games in the NHL hasn't gained an understanding of his profession that vastly outpaces some couch potatoes sucking back hot-dogs while watching the game on TV, is just nonsense.
The vast majority of GM's in the league were former Pro's. With the odd exception (i.e. the analytics kid in Arizona) most of the non-NHL vet GM's played at a very high-level, or emerged from years of experience in the game.
Sorry fans running an NHL hockey team make a great Disney movie plot, but thankful not in real-life.
The problem is that the game has changed so much since his playing days, you could argue it may even makes him worse. Is it because he and Benning played in the 80-90s that they always seem to prefer outdated play styles and have old school views? Is it because of that, that they like a Gudbranson, a Dorsett or a Sutter?
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Old boys network. Just like in real life - it's the connections you have that make as much an impact that whatever inherent skills one MIGHT have. Greatest player in the game (Gretzky) was awful in his roles with the Yotes. Different sport - but Jordan is another example. It helps but it isn't a required to have success in the league.
All three stooges were rookies in their roles when hired (Benning, Linden & Willie). THAT was the problem (three guys still "learning on the job" in high executive positions).
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You've clearly never met any GMs that would tell you it's much different than being a player and often not as transferable as one might think. Being a player might get you used to the atmosphere more to start (and you'd have a lot more natural connections to people in the hockey world to start), but running the front office of a multi-hundred million dollar business is a LOT different and in no way comparable to being a player.
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you know its the dog days of summer when people are picking on Trevor Linden's intelligence level as if its some kind of negative for a president of hockey operations position.
Linden is not just a former highly successful NHLer. Trevor is a high achiever, a former Jr and NHL captain and leader of men. A representative of the players in collective bargaining. A successful developer, a successful businessman a extremely charitable and respected human being in his community who has always strived for high levels of human performance and wants nothing less than a Stanley Cup for this city and organization.
Trevor was hired without experience in his role, he's learning. His interview was insightful and respectful and he's a pretty polished speaker. Say what you wan't about his personality and his accomplishments but without a doubt he's not out of his depth when it comes to being an NHL president.
Linden is not just a former highly successful NHLer. Trevor is a high achiever, a former Jr and NHL captain and leader of men. A representative of the players in collective bargaining. A successful developer, a successful businessman a extremely charitable and respected human being in his community who has always strived for high levels of human performance and wants nothing less than a Stanley Cup for this city and organization.
Trevor was hired without experience in his role, he's learning. His interview was insightful and respectful and he's a pretty polished speaker. Say what you wan't about his personality and his accomplishments but without a doubt he's not out of his depth when it comes to being an NHL president.
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Great post and I completely agree.
Unfortunately, your words will likely fall on deaf ears here.
#BenningSux #LindenSux #TankCommander
Development of young talents only works when the team actually has talents to develop.
This team doesn't have the cup level D or cup level forward stocked in the prospect pool. We have a bunch of question marks, and our management acts like they already have someone like McDavid down the pipes.
Said talent can be obtained by draft or by trade, both are something our management had shown to be laughably bad at.
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No worries with great mentors like Sutter. Look at all the cups the Pens won with Sutter.
Trevor Linden is a personable guy who is popular with fans of this franchise because of his playing career, and managed to parlay that popularity into some success as a commercial pitchman who had has name slapped on some gyms.
He's a guy with a high-school education who by his own admission had nothing to do with the sport in the 7 years between the end of his career and his hiring as President. Literally his only qualification for the job was that the fans here liked him.
Since his hiring, he's been laughably out of his depth. Hired a complete moron as GM. The team has had no direction whatsoever and barely even seems to have a plan. He's been completely out of touch with the fanbase. Constantly contradicts himself in interviews. The franchise has gone into the toilet under his leadership, ticket sales have collapsed, and ownership has lost over $100 million in franchise value. Not out of his depth? Are you serious?
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
Wait until the Sedin's contracts come off the books....It's okay because he's learning. He didn't sign any Eriksson's this year.
Lots of cap space + Benning =
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