Travis Dermott Holding His Own Against The League's Best Young D

[ToneDog]

I was disappointed when we did not draft Konecny but after seeing Dermott I have put the Konecny/Dermott debate to bed. Flyers were deep with D prospects and we needed to stock our D shelf. It is a win for both teams.

 

[saltming]

Too soon. One of his biggest fans, but the difference between 3rd pairing and 1st pairing comp is gigantic.

Yup and no need to rush him. Let him grow organically into it.
You can see him figuring out the game still. With his smarts and work ethic I would be a little surprised if he has a sophomore slump

 

[zeke]

Dermott hasn't had a chance to play much on special teams so far so we can only really look at his even strength play.

I won't bother to compare him with guys like McAvoy, Provorov, and Werenski, who all face top competition on top pairings.

Legend:

Letter Grade qoc = Quality of Competition measured by opponents' time on ice, Converted into Letter Grades for simplicity
p60 = points per 60 minutes
CF% = Corsi For Percentage (i.e. shot attempts for percentage)
xGF% = Expected Goals For Percentage (i.e. shot attempt percentage adjusted for shot quality) - this stat is already adjusted for zone deployment and game score
In Brackets = CF% and xGF% relative to team

Chychrun (19): 18:21 (B- qoc), 0.78p60, 46.1cf% (-3.8rel), 45.9xgf% (-0.8rel)
Sergachev (19): 13:40 (C+ qoc), 1.25p60, 52.8cf% (+0.8rel), 54.0xgf% (+1.8rel)
Chabot (20): 14:32 (C+ qoc), 1.03p60, 46.9cf% (+2.0rel), 46.0xgf% (+0.9rel)
Hanifin (20): 16:55 (C qoc), 1.20p60, 55.8cf% (+3.5rel), 56.8xgf% (+4.1rel)
Dermott (21): 15:53 (C- qoc), 1.27p60, 53.5cf% (+4.2rel), 51.9xgf% (+3.0rel)

Chychrun is the toughest one to judge here because he's being forced into a bigger role on an awful team while being the youngest on this list. His numbers are worse than the others but I don't think it's a fair comp.

But the other 4 seem to me to be very comparable across all those numbers. Note that Dermott is actually only about a month older than Chabot and Hanifin.

 

[ottomaddox]

I am hoping Dermott plays more min. than Gardiner in the playoffs.

 

[Morgs]

I am hoping Dermott plays more min. than Gardiner in the playoffs.

You meant to say Zaitsev, right?

 

[MR4]

I am hoping Dermott plays more min. than Gardiner in the playoffs.

Gardiner was the best dman in last year's playoffs. Smoking too much dope boy

 

[LeafsNation75]

I was disappointed when we did not draft Konecny but after seeing Dermott I have put the Konecny/Dermott debate to bed. Flyers were deep with D prospects and we needed to stock our D shelf. It is a win for both teams.

Since Dermott has been called up I said it's the best of both worlds getting him and Marner in the same draft.

 

[mulefarm]

I am hoping Dermott plays more min. than Gardiner in the playoffs.

Why would you hope that? Did you mean the AHL playoffs?

 

[ottomaddox]

Why would you hope that? Did you mean the AHL playoffs?

Why does this shock people? There is a part of the fan base that doesn't care for Gardiner. I know that Jake has 43 points. He's soft and a big time knucklehead.

 

[Not My Tempo]

I bumped the Gauthier thread yesterday so I feel like I should bump this one as well.

Dermotts results last year were insane:

He was sheltered last year but he was also playing all of his shifts with Polak which impacts results more than competetion. I honestly think he could blossom into a first pairing guy playing with Rielly or Gardiner

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

I am hoping Dermott plays more min. than Gardiner in the playoffs.

Especially in game 7.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

he's our 3rd best defenseman, and might compete with Gardiner for 2nd if he gets more of an opportunity. the leafs are much better with him back there

 

[Mr Hockey]

He is doing well, I expect Jake will be resigned (no choice) and doubt Hainsey will be. lots of opportunity next season for Dermott.

 

[Advanced stats]

expect Jake will be resigned

Hope not. Hopefully let go or traded for a similar RHD. Dermott can take the 2 LD spot and someone is brought in to replace hainsey

Rielly - Tyler Myers
Dermott - zaitsev
Rosen/Borgman - ozhiganov
Liljeren

Would be the best defense we've had in years

 

[All_blueandwhite]

Hope not. Hopefully let go or traded for a similar RHD. Dermott can take the 2 LD spot and someone is brought in to replace hainsey

Rielly - Tyler Myers
Dermott - zaitsev
Rosen/Borgman - ozhiganov
Liljeren

Would be the best defense we've had in years

In what world does replacing Gardiner with an inferior defensemen make that "the best defense we've had in years" ?

 

[Advanced stats]

In what world does replacing Gardiner with an inferior defensemen make that "the best defense we've had in years" ?

While Gardiner is debatablly superior, improvements to our u25 defensemen far exceeds any skill difference between the two players, thus giving us our best defense in years

Additionally, while gards might be slightly better offensively, Myers is probably be slightly better defensively and has a bit of snarl to him.

 

[Stephen]

While Gardiner is debatablly superior, improvements to our u25 defensemen far exceeds any skill difference between the two players, thus giving us our best defense in years

Additionally, while gards might be slightly better offensively, Myers is probably be slightly better defensively and has a bit of snarl to him.

There's not a lot of snarl to Myers.

 

[Advanced stats]

There's not a lot of snarl to Myers.

More hits, way more blocks and more size. Definitely a little more intimidating and willing to clean the crease than gards

 

[Mr Hockey]

I would like to see Myers on a Babcock coached team.

 

[Slyfox]

Tyler Myers will be 29 and has been injury prone his entire career. Giving him a big contract will be a mistake.

 

[LeafSteel]

Any chance Dermott bonks his head hard and wakes up Right handed?

It would help a lot......

 

[meefer]

Said it prior to the pre-season and will say it again: Dermott with Rielly, sliding Rielly over to the R side. It may be a rough transition, perhaps more than Dermott can handle at present, but I view it as an option we should explore. The two would/should be our best transition pairing, their abilities to make passes to each other to escape pressure and transitioning would far exceed what we see now. Rielly wouldn't be covering the skating weaknesses of Hainsey and H could slide back to the L side on 3rd pairing to limit his exposure to high pressure situations. It might be overly optimistic at this point, but I'm curious and think it's worth the risk.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

More hits, way more blocks and more size. Definitely a little more intimidating and willing to clean the crease than gards

I'm not the biggest fan of Gardiner but he's for sure better than Myers.

 

[Skin Tape Session]

Any chance Dermott bonks his head hard and wakes up Right handed?

It would help a lot......

Lhd/ rhd is wayyyyyyyyy overblown. Its really not that big a deal

 

[Fogelhund]

Lhd/ rhd is wayyyyyyyyy overblown. Its really not that big a deal

Except to those who matter.