Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XIV

[aragorn]

Has the NHL figured out how trades are going to work during this Covid 19 season when travelling is discouraged as well as crossing the border? I assume that some kind of quarantine period would be in affect so any players traded would need to be tested before going to their new team & then isolated for a few weeks. Then the whole hassle of moving the family or wait until the off season, it's going to be a mess & it wouldn't surprise me if more guys than usual say no to a trade this yr. This is the one yr where it may not be, business as usual.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Would I trade Stuetzle for PLD? No, lateral move at best, realistically a step back. Stuetzle is under Sens control for 7 years. PLD is 4 years.

Would I trade Sanderson for PLD? In a heartbeat. PLD fills a hole in the line up immediately, he speeds up the rebuild by 2 years. It gets us closer to competing for a cup.
Sanderson can refuse to sign like Adam Fox, Kevin Hayes, Alex Kerfoot, Will Butcher, Jimmy Vesey, Justin Schultz

Don't forget Pinto and JBD. We're about to lose everyone in college right now.

 

[armani]

Depends how you define 1C prospect I suppose. The Kings are sitting right there with Turcotte and Vilardi behind Byfield on the depth chart. If they decide they want to throw one of them into a package that may very well top anything the Sens can throw together.

In a vacumn the Sens can probably still offer the most value, but if Jarmo doesn't think Norris is enough of a replacement at C there's really no clear road to trade for PLD.

I don't see LA trading Byfield for PLD. With Turquotte and Vallardi in the mix and LA doesn't need PLD. In theory they can offer better, but they have no need for him.

 

[JD1]

I can't help but ask are we good enough if we get Dubois? If say Sanderson, White and a 1st goes the other way?

I'm not sure we need Dubois and i hope we don't. If Stuetzle is a C, we need one of Brown, White or Norris to be an upper end 2C. Then we've got 50 minutes a night with Chabot and Sanderson.

If we get Dubois and Stuetzle is a 1C, then what? Dubois is a2C, we've got one of White, Brown or Norris to play 3C (with one traded to get Dubois) and the other gets traded. And we've weakened our D.

I just don't see the upside

Better to wait 56 games and see what we've got and plug holes as needed

 

[Taluss]

I can't help but ask are we good enough if we get Dubois? If say Sanderson, White and a 1st goes the other way?

I'm not sure we need Dubois and i hope we don't. If Stuetzle is a C, we need one of Brown, White or Norris to be an upper end 2C. Then we've got 50 minutes a night with Chabot and Sanderson.

If we get Dubois and Stuetzle is a 1C, then what? Dubois is a2C, we've got one of White, Brown or Norris to play 3C (with one traded to get Dubois) and the other gets traded. And we've weakened our D.

I just don't see the upside

Better to wait 56 games and see what we've got and plug holes as needed

Looking like a PLD trade will take that long to happen anyway. CBJ won’t get what they are after currently and are in no rush to move him.

 

[stempniaksen]

I don't see LA trading Byfield for PLD. With Turquotte and Vallardi in the mix and LA doesn't need PLD. In theory they can offer better, but they have no need for him.

I'm no so sure about that honestly. PLD/Byfield is a pretty nice 1/2 punch long-term and maybe they want to pair someone with Kopitar and Doughty and not waste their remaining years.

It's not just the Kings either, the point is just that all it takes is one team to offer up a better C prospect than what Ottawa has to offer. The Sens, despite all the talent in the cupboards, might not be a great spot to pull off a PLD trade if the best piece they can offer is Sanderson/Brannstrom when the Blue Jackets already have Jones and Werenski on the roster.

 

[playasRus]

I don't think CBJ wants what we are willing to give up for PLD - anything outside of Chabot, Tkachuk, Stuetzel, Sanderson.

Logan Brown/Norris/Batherson/Formenton + Logan Brown/Norris/Batherson/Formenton + JBD + Unprotected 2021 1st is even enough for them and I don't think we even offer them that. That's already equivalent to 4 first round picks all ready to step into the NHL.

 

[Micklebot]

There are only so many roster spots, we can afford to overpay a bit, but they don't have a ton of leverage and we don't need to make this move.

 

[aragorn]

I would not move Sanderson for Dubois, however, I would move White & Brannstrom in a package, maybe include Gustavsson if they also want a goalie & a pick and/or B-prospect like Abramov.

 

[Boud]

I would not move Sanderson for Dubois, however, I would move White & Brannstrom in a package, maybe include Gustavsson if they also want a goalie & a pick and/or B-prospect like Abramov.

Yea no kidding you would lol

- Goalie prospect who hasn't impressed much
- A center who has underperformed and is getting paid the same salary as Dubois
- The smallest prospects we have which you obviously don't like nor believe in their potential future impact

So basically not much for a 6'3" 220pds future #1C.

Why would CBJ do that though?

 

[Hale The Villain]

Sanderson could be a very attractive piece for CBJ if they don't think Jones is going to re-sign.

Similar style of player (with less offense obviously) and his dad Geoff played for Columbus back in the day.

Add in a potential replacement top 2 line center in Norris, Brown or White (if he rebounds) and you have a good framework for a deal.

Would make more sense for us if it's done next off season when we know we can draft one of the top D in 2021 (hopefully a RD).

 

[Que]

In order to get a PLD trade started, we’d have to offer two blue-chip pieces. Excluding Stuetzle - there’s 4 in our cupboard.

Unprotected ‘21 1st, Batherson, Norris and Sanderson.

To me, Batherson and the 1st are the least valuable and cumulatively are still not worth PLD.

 

[aragorn]

Yea no kidding you would lol

- Goalie prospect who hasn't impressed much
- A center who has underperformed and is getting paid the same salary as Dubois
- The smallest prospects we have which you obviously don't like nor believe in their potential future impact

So basically not much for a 6'3" 220pds future #1C.

Why would CBJ do that though?

I considered writing Steutzle & maybe Brannstrom for Dubois, but you know what would have happened then don't you?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I considered writing Steutzle & maybe Brannstrom for Dubois, but you know what would have happened then don't you?

Do what you gotta do strider

 

[Burrowsaurus]

In order to get a PLD trade started, we’d have to offer two blue-chip pieces. Excluding Stuetzle - there’s 4 in our cupboard.

Unprotected ‘21 1st, Batherson, Norris and Sanderson.

To me, Batherson and the 1st are the least valuable and cumulatively are still not worth PLD.

I think that’s so much more than what other teams are offering. So I think it’s too much

 

[R2010]

Guys teams weren't willing to give up their absolute top prospects for Karlsson, Stone, Duchene etc... but we're supposed to believe that we should trade multiple of them for a guy with a couple 50 point seasons? If Vegas wasn't willing to do Glass, NYI wasn't willing to do Dobson etc... then why would would teams trade similar tier players. Sanderson/Norris today are better prospects than Brannstrom/Norris at the time of their trades.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I feel like a move towards Dubois kind of just ushers in an era of mediocrity. He's never gonna be a big time 1C, but we'd have to pay him that way in money and assets. I'd rather wait for someone better via trade or FA or stay where we are at the bottom for the draft. Dubois doesn't make this team a contender in the next few years but it probably keeps us from drafting the real difference maker we'll need.

Different story if it was for Barzel, Eichel, or Draisaitl.

 

[JD1]

I would not move Sanderson for Dubois, however, I would move White & Brannstrom in a package, maybe include Gustavsson if they also want a goalie & a pick and/or B-prospect like Abramov.

I would not move big guy, big guy, big guy but i would move little guy, little, little guy

Gotra luv ya Aragorn....you believe in yourself

 

[JD1]

I considered writing Steutzle & maybe Brannstrom for Dubois, but you know what would have happened then don't you?

The boys would call you certifiable?

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Dubois is asking for a trade because Columbus is too small of a market for him. The discussion should literally end there. Sure we would own his rights for 4 years, but all that's going to be is having a disinterested, unhappy player as our 1C, getting top minutes, and moping around the locker room. Why on earth would we trade Sanderson (or anyone) for a player that will obviously not want to be here?

 

[Liver King]

I really like PLD and think he would be a perfect fit here

He works with the age and style of team - but I also wouldn't break the bank for him.

Personally theres zero chance I trade Sanderson

 

[SensFactor]

Dubois is asking for a trade because Columbus is too small of a market for him. The discussion should literally end there. Sure we would own his rights for 4 years, but all that's going to be is having a disinterested, unhappy player as our 1C, getting top minutes, and moping around the locker room. Why on earth would we trade Sanderson (or anyone) for a player that will obviously not want to be here?

I agree with you here but that also begs the question how long do you think all our US born prospects want to play in a small Canadian city like Ottawa? Sanderson, Pinto, White, Tkachuk, Norris, Kleven at some point in their careers will want back to US especially if we don't make strides towards a cup.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

To follow up on my previous post about Dubois, I feel like the Sens make a big splash for him would be the NHL equivalent of the Vikings signing Kirk Cousins.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

To follow up on my previous post about Dubois, I feel like the Sens make a big splash for him would be the NHL equivalent of the Vikings signing Kirk Cousins.

How is it...*anything* like that

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

How is it...*anything* like that

A move to be perpetually mediocre.

Edit: or hey, if you wanna compare it to a hockey/Sens move, its kina like trading for Bobby Ryan the having to give him the equivalent contract in 2 years despite whatever he does.