Rumor: Trade Rumors Thread: Part VI

[RangerBoy]

Kevin Kurz covers the Sharks for Comcast Bay Area

He is having a chat about the Sharks

http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon

Someone asked about Boyle to the Rangers

Only if you get one or a few top prospects back, like a Kreider or McDonagh back, but I don't think the Rangers would do that

http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon/69785197

Earlier in the chat,Kurz said the Sharks want a young top #1 D in return for Boyle

Only if they got a young potential number one d-man in return, but again, I don't see a Boyle trade happening

http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon/69784812

37 year old Dan Boyle

50/50 Clowe is dealt. Wilson wants #1 pick plus for Clowe.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

I wouldn't trade them McDonagh if THEY added on to it.

 

[Radek27]

McDonagh isn't a prospect anymore, WTF are they talking about?

No GM would trade McDonagh for a 37 year old defender! Lets start looking for something else if the SJ players are going to cost that much.

 

[I Am Chariot]

The SJS are high! McDonuts for a 37 year old overpaid D man.

I'd rather miss the playoffs

 

[I Am Chariot]

McDonagh isn't a prospect anymore, WTF are they talking about?

No GM would trade McDonagh for a 37 year old defender! Lets start looking for something else if the SJ players are going to cost that much.

Look what Iggy just cost and he's scored 30+ every season for over a decade... with mediocre help.

 

[Thirty One]

The SJS are high! McDonuts for a 37 year old overpaid D man.

I'd rather miss the playoffs

It's from someone who works for their TV station.

Would you take something Bill Pidto said this seriously? (don't answer that, Bob Richards)

 

[Pizza]

Ive been making these arguments for years, and they were usually met with scorn.

The first mistake was trading for Jagr and surrounding him with his posse. That was a total waste. Hardly anyone from those teams is still here. Those were stopgap teams, except the stop gaps are supposed to hold you over in years where you get high picks. We didn't do that.

The second mistake was trying to surround those aging players with terrible free agent signings instead of realizing that those teams were miserably flawed and needed to be scrapped.

Mistake three was signing Gaborik instead of dismantling and getting high picks, or at least being patient and getting a legit dynamic multi talent like Kovalchuk.

Chance after chance to rebuild and get a high draft pick to develop a great top line forward was passed over.

You don't go anywhere in this league without some homegrown franchise forwards anchoring your top line (even te year the Bruins won the Cup, Crosby was out). Not only did the Rangers refuse to go through a natural rebuild, but the one chance they had where a top line prospect fell into their laps, they drafted a role player defenseman.

This team does everything backwards, and what you get in they case is what we have now: not bad, but certainly not good enough.

There are some very good points made here that I agree with. But there are different ways to create a good hockey team. The reality in New York is that the Rangers and their fan base do not have the luxury nor the mentality to start from scratch. So getting that generational, game breaking talent (Ovechkin, Crosby, Malkin) is very unlikely to come the Rangers way thru the draft any time soon.

As someone mentioned above building around a core of Hank, Callahan, McDonaugh, Stepan, et. al. is far from the worst you could do. We have some interesting question marks in the pipeline right now: Kreider, Hags, Miller and a few others. We simply do not know what will happen with these prospects. There could be some gems in there along with a few busts. The fact is that the prospect pipe line today is far better than it has been decades.

Sting and I disagree on this but I continue to believe that McIlrath will wind up being much more than an average defenseman.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

It's from someone who works for their TV station.

Would you take something Bill Pidto said this seriously? (don't answer that, Bob Richards)

LOL BILL PIDTO



That is all.

But no seriously, I hate Pittsburgh

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Look, I really think it's way too early in the process to be classifying Stepan as a 1C going forward. All the other 1C's in the league are way superior to him in size, skills, production, etcetera.
If Richards isn't going to man up, then buy him out and get a legitimate 1C!

He's 22 and he has 25 points in 32 games. He's tied 11th for points by a center. http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....status=&viewName=summary#?navid=nav-sts-indiv

There's still room for more development, he's not going to be in his offensive prime until he's 25-27ish. He certainly looks like a 1C, and has been progressing and improving each year he's been in the NHL. What other teams have a young, 2-way center like Stepan? Not many. That's another facet of Stepan's game that is overlooked. He's a very good defensive player, and an excellent PKer. He's always creating chances shorthanded.

He's been the #1 center this season. He plays in every situation, and he puts up points. He still has to prove it by keeping up his play, but I see no signs of him faltering or regressing.

 

[Thirty One]

He's 22 and he has 25 points in 32 games. He's tied 11th for points by a center. http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....status=&viewName=summary#?navid=nav-sts-indiv

Keep in mind though, some people think there are only 10 first line centers and #1 defensemen in the league.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Kevin Kurz covers the Sharks for Comcast Bay Area

He is having a chat about the Sharks

http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon

Someone asked about Boyle to the Rangers



http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon/69785197

Earlier in the chat,Kurz said the Sharks want a young top #1 D in return for Boyle



http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon/69784812

37 year old Dan Boyle

50/50 Clowe is dealt. Wilson wants #1 pick plus for Clowe.

Only if they got a young potential number one d-man in return, but again, I don't see a Boyle trade happening

Potential #1 dman? Hmmm.. well Mcdonagh is already a #1 dman so clearly its not him. Staal is a #1 dman on most teams. so maybe Boyle for Skjel

 

[Championship*]

I think we're all hoping that the real deadline pickup for the Rangers is they get their heads out of their ***** and start playing to the best of their ability. That would be better than any player we get back in a trade.

 

[Squarp]

Only if they got a young potential number one d-man in return, but again, I don't see a Boyle trade happening

Potential #1 dman? Hmmm.. well Mcdonagh is already a #1 dman so clearly its not him. Staal is a #1 dman on most teams. so maybe Boyle for Skjel

Dude he is clearly referring to McIlrath

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch
League executive on no trades today: "Calm before the storm." TradeTracker

 

[Kwayry]

Bruce Garrioch @SunGarrioch
League executive on no trades today: "Calm before the storm." TradeTracker

A lot of people are predicting a thud.

 

[BBKers]

4 days left

No numbers on Allen yet...
Nor is Fast(h)s destination clear
Noreau and McColgan will both most likely get ELCs soon
Thereafter - it is anybody´s guess I suppose

TRADE GUIDELINE
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013 (49)

NEW YORK RANGERS (25)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
1| D | McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) | $1,300,000* |RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2| F | Stepan, Derek (ELC)| $875,000 | RFA 2013 |New York Rangers/NHL|R2 #51 NYR (2008)
3| F | Hagelin, Carl (ELC) | $875,000* | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #168 NYR (2007)
4 |D| Sauer, Michael (LTIR) | $1,250,000 | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #40 NYR (2005)
5| D| Hamrlik, Roman | $3,500,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #1 Washington (1992)
6| D| Eminger, Steve | $750,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 Washington (2002)
7| D | Zuccarello, Mats| $750,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
8| D | Gilroy, Matt| $650,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
9| D | Del Zotto, M. | $2,550,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #20 NYR (2008)
10| F | Kreider, Chris (ELC)| $1,325,000* | RFA 2014|New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #19 NYR (2009)
11| F | Gaborik, Marian (NTC)| $7,500,000| UFA 2014 |New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #3 Minnesota (2000)
12| G | Lundqvist, Henrik | $6,875,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #208 NYR (2000)
13| F | Callahan, Ryan | $4,275,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R4 #127 NYR (2004)
14| D| Girardi, Dan | $3,325,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
15| D| Stralman, Anton| $1,700,000| UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
16| F| Boyle, Brian | $1,700,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
17| F | Pyatt, Taylor | $1,550,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
18| F | Powe, Darroll | $1,066,667 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
19| G |Biron, Martin | $1,300,000 |UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
20| F | Asham, Arron | $1,000,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
21| F | Newbury, Kris | $600,000 |UFA 2014 |New York Rangers/NHL| R5 #139 San Jose (2002)
22| F | Miller, J.T. (ELC)| $1,244,167* | RFA 2015 |New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #15 NYR (2011)
23| D | Staal, Marc (LTIR) | $3,975,000 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 NYR (2005)
24| F | Nash, Rick (NMC) | $7,800,000 | UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
25| F | Richards, Brad (NMC) | $6,666,667 | UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL| R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)[/table]

Assigned to AHL/ECHL/Europe (24)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
26| D | Delisle, Steven (ELC) | $733,333* |RFA 2013| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| R4 #107 CBJ (2008)
27| D | Niemi, Jyri (ELC) | $700,000*| RFA 2013| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| R3 #72 NYI (2008)
28| F | Ferriero, Benn | $700,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #196 Phoenix (2006)
29| D | Pyett, Logan | $600,000| RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
30| F | Palmieri, Nick | $577,500 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL | R3 #79 New Jersey Devils (2007)
31| F | Mashinter, Brandon | $550,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
32| D | Parlett, Blake (ELC) | $537,500| RFA 2013 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
33| D | Collins, Sean | $600,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
34| F | Segal, Brandon| $550,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
35| D| Vernace, Mike | $525,000| UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #201 San Jose (2004)
36| F | Jean, Kyle (ELC)| $925,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
37| F | Bourque, Ryan (ELC) | $900,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R3 #80 NYR (2009)
38| G | Missiaen, Jason (ELC) | $750,000* |RFA 2014 |Connecticut Whale/AHL|Undrafted
39| G | Stajcer, Scott (ELC)| $700,000* | RFA 2014| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL|R5 #140 NYR (2009)
40| F | Wilson, Jason (ELC)| $588,333 | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R5 #130 NYR (2010)
41| D | McIlrath, Dylan (ELC)| $1,295,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R1 #10 NYR (2010)
42| F | Fast(h), Jesper (ELC)| $900,000* |RFA 2015|Connecticut Whale/AHL???| R6 #157 NYR (2010)
43| D | Bickel, Stu| $750,000| UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted
44| F | Haley, Micheal| $600,000 | UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
45| F | Thomas, Christian (ELC)| $970,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R2 #40 NYR (2010)
46| F | Yogan, Andrew (ELC)| $800,000 | RFA 2015 | Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #100 NYR (2010)
47| F | Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) | $760,000* |RFA 2015| Loaned to Skellefteå AIK/SEL| R2 #57 PHX (2010)
48| F | Hrivik, Marek (ELC)| $685,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
49| G | Talbot, Cameron | $562,600 | UFA 2015| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted[/table]

CONTRACTED PLAYERS THAT DO NOT COUNT against 50 contract limit in 2013
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
+| F | Nicholls, J. (ELC)| $709,167 | RFA 2016| Juniors - Saskatoon Blades/WHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
+| F | St. Croix, M. (ELC S)| $665,000 | RFA 2016| Juniors - Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011)
+| D | Allen, Conor (ELC)| ~$900,000 ?| RFA 2015|Connecticut Whale/AHL ?|undrafted[/table]

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR
[table="head;width=2500]Pos| Player|Team| Drafted
D |Pashnin, Mikhail| HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL |R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/CCHA| R3 #72 NYR (2011)
F |McColgan, Shane| Saskatoon Blades/WHL | R5 #134 NYR (2011)
D |Noreau, Samuel | Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ |R5 #136 NYR(2011)
D |Čerešňák, Peter| Peterborough Petes/OHL| R6 #172 NYR (2011)
D |Skjei, Brady | Minnesota Golden Gophers/WCHA |R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F |Nieves, Cristoval | Michigan Wolverines/CCHA| R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D |Andersson, Calle| Malmö /HA | R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F |Spelling, Thomas| Oskarshamn/HA | R5 #142 NYR(2012)[/table]

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
LTIR - denotes player placed on Long time injury reserve

NYR Draft picks in 2013

• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round Florida (for W. Wolski 2012)
• 3rd round Nashville (for NYR 3rd round pick 2012)
• 3rd round NYR
• 3rd round Columbus (in Nash trade 2012, conditional - that NYR do not go to SC finals in 2013)
• 4th round NYR
• 6th round NYR

• NO 1st rounder (traded to Columbus for Rick Nash... 2012)
• NO 5th rounder (traded to Nashville for Nashville 5th 2012 - chose Tomas Spelling at #142)
• NO 7th rounder (traded to Minnesota along with Eric "Crusher" Christensen for Casey Wellman 2012)

NYR Draft picks in 2014

• 1st round NYR
• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round NYR
• 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round NYR

• Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick)

 

[Vitto79]

Leopold to blues for picks confirmed, no news on picks yet

 

[cd211]

He's 22 and he has 25 points in 32 games. He's tied 11th for points by a center. http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats....status=&viewName=summary#?navid=nav-sts-indiv

There's still room for more development, he's not going to be in his offensive prime until he's 25-27ish. He certainly looks like a 1C, and has been progressing and improving each year he's been in the NHL. What other teams have a young, 2-way center like Stepan? Not many. That's another facet of Stepan's game that is overlooked. He's a very good defensive player, and an excellent PKer. He's always creating chances shorthanded.

He's been the #1 center this season. He plays in every situation, and he puts up points. He still has to prove it by keeping up his play, but I see no signs of him faltering or regressing.

good points.. he's only goin to get better.. the thing i like about him is hes a rink/gym rat.. hes always trying to improve, get better and to go along with that he has the right attitude... i think sky is the limit..

we're good now and into the future with Step and Miller being as young as they are.. I think miller will contribute.. may take time but hes big part of the answer too..

ging fwd i want richards, as bad as he has been to get one more year here.. then of course be bought out.. Nice options in 14' Stasny, Malkin hopefully so we could put all our eggs in that basket..

 

[Juxtaposer]

Pay no attention to Kevin Kurz, he's an absolute moron.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Leopold to blues for picks confirmed, no news on picks yet

Bob McKenzie‏@TSNBobMcKenzie2m
BUF gets 2nd round pick and conditional 5th round pick for Leopold. 5th rder becomes a 4th if STL wins a playoff series.

Dominoes

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/kevin-kurz/clowe-trade-could-come-soon

Rumoured teams to be trading for Clowe: MTL, BOS, NYR.

SAN JOSE – The Sharks appear to be moving closer towards trading left wing Ryane Clowe.

A source has informed CSNCalifornia.com that the Sharks have approached Clowe’s agent about the possibility of waiving his no-trade clause, and a deal could happen as soon as Sunday.

Boston, Montreal and the New York Rangers appear to be the most likely destinations. Sharks director of pro scouting John Ferguson, Jr. was in Philadelphia for the Bruins-Flyers game on Saturday afternoon. He flew to Montreal for the Canadiens-Rangers game later that day, according to RDS’ Ren Lavoie.

 

[*Bob Richards*]

Ugh. I don't want Clowe. This season is probably a wash. Might as well just retain our bearings and head into the next season.

 

[17futurecap]

Why bother wasting any asset on a rental after these past two games?

 

[Thirty One]

Why bother wasting any asset on a rental after these past two games?

Sample size.

 

[The Gloaming]

Kevin Kurz covers the Sharks for Comcast Bay Area

He is having a chat about the Sharks

http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon

Someone asked about Boyle to the Rangers



http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon/69785197

Earlier in the chat,Kurz said the Sharks want a young top #1 D in return for Boyle



http://www.scribblelive.com/Event/Sharks_CHAT_with_Insider_Kevin_Kurz_--_Noon/69784812

37 year old Dan Boyle

50/50 Clowe is dealt. Wilson wants #1 pick plus for Clowe.

So, do they want McD, Kreider and a 1st for Boyle or something?

How about we just throw in Hank and be done with it. What a joke.