Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals/Free Agents 2017-2018

[Oilers in NS]

Is it possible for both GMs to lose a trade?

Chiarelli scares me

 

[Langdon Alger]

Ceci for RNH straight up would be interesting, but I feel we’d have to add. Don’t love RNH’s contract though.

Just something I saw being discussed on twitter. Ideally, we keep Karlsson of course. Not sure how likely that is though.

 

[JungleBeat]

Ceci + Smith + 3rd for RNH.

 

[Hale The Villain]

This is why you’d never be a good GM. Lmfao.

Excellent argument.

You have changed my mind sir.

Thank you.

 

[JungleBeat]

Excellent argument.

You have changed my mind sir.

Thank you.

Glad I could help.

You’ve changed for the better.

You’re very welcome.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

RNH is a mega shrug for me.

He's probably a lesser Turris at this point. Good player but hard to get excited about him considering he was a first overall and is now a third C.

 

[Stylizer1]

Karlsson Ryan for Draisaitl Larsson 1st

OTT

1. Draisaitl, L
2. Klefbom, O
3. Strome, R
4. Nurse, D

EDM

1. Ryan, B
2. Karlsson, E
3. Dzingel, R
4. White, C
5. 2nd

Edmonton will need money to to resign Karlsson and White so will need cap space. Strome and Nurse should get raises so adding them helps with the numbers. For them to take on Ryan you have to sweeten the deal. money wise this works and I think both teams. Take out Ryan and it makes the deal easier.

I just can't see Edmonton wanting Ryan in any way + Lucic.

 

[Stylizer1]

Klefbom + top 5-10 pick + more is not a comparable return in any way to Paul and Gagne

No but it is underwhelming for 1 of the best players in the league. Might as well be the spezza trade.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

RNH is a mega shrug for me.

He's probably a lesser Turris at this point. Good player but hard to get excited about him considering he was a first overall and is now a third C.

He's not a 3rd C.. Not very often did Edmonton deploy McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH all at C at the same time. Drai has been on McDavid's wing a lot.. now RNH is.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

He's not a 3rd C

He's currently playing as a third C and is, from what I understand, doing very well.

In a vacuum he's probably a decent 2nd line C.

EDIT: at least that is what I had understood. I did not know he was playing wing these days. Still, not an exciting player in terms of acquisition IMO.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

OTT

1. Draisaitl, L
2. Klefbom, O
3. Strome, R
4. Nurse, D

EDM

1. Ryan, B
2. Karlsson, E
3. Dzingel, R
4. White, C
5. 2nd

Edmonton will need money to to resign Karlsson and White so will need cap space. Strome and Nurse should get raises so adding them helps with the numbers. For them to take on Ryan you have to sweeten the deal. money wise this works and I think both teams. Take out Ryan and it makes the deal easier.

I just can't see Edmonton wanting Ryan in any way + Lucic.

Not giving them White to take Ryan

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He's currently playing as a third C and is, from what I understand, doing very well.

In a vacuum he's probably a decent 2nd line C.

He's currently on McDavid's wing. Most of the year he was their 2C

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Also seems a bit silly to get RNH who is making Turris money when Turris is probably a better player.

I guess RNH is 24 years old but still.

So damn "meh". He's not even that good at faceoffs I believe.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Also seems a bit silly to get RNH who is making Turris money when Turris is probably a better player.

I guess RNH is 24 years old but still.

So damn "meh". He's not even that good at faceoffs I believe.

Starting today .. 6 years 6 million... I'd take RNH over Turris ... but 6 years was never on the table
What seems a little surprising to me is moving Brassard and then possibly move Hoffman for a C.. but ... chances are he'd want 6 years as well. I hope Dorion knows what he's doing and he has a plan to have 6 legitimate top 6 players and its not just change for change sake...

The hope things work out with player x taking another leap has not been really working

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Starting today .. 6 years 6 million... I'd take RNH over Turris ... but 6 years was never on the table
What seems a little surprising to me is moving Brassard and then possibly move Hoffman for a C.. but ... chances are he'd want 6 years as well. I hope Dorion knows what he's doing and he has a plan to have 6 legitimate top 6 players and its not just change for change sake...

The hope things work out with player x taking another leap has not been really working

RNH is probably going to look for more than 6 per on his next deal however.

 

[Deku]

RNH is a mega shrug for me.

He's probably a lesser Turris at this point. Good player but hard to get excited about him considering he was a first overall and is now a third C.

He's better than Turris. Pretty similar style although Turris is more of a shooter and Nuge is more of a playmaker.
He's a quality 2C.

I should add that I wouldn't want to give Hoffman for him.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

RNH has 3 years left on his contract after this season concludes. Think back to where this team was 3 seasons ago, in terms of NHL hockey, that's a long time.

If we're acquiring RNH as part of a re-tool, the ideal scenario would be that he becomes our 2C for the next two years, in year 3 one of our C prospects is ready for 2C deal, and then we can trade RNH for futures.

If Brassard was a bit younger and signed for 3 more years, maybe we wouldn't have moved him. A Brassard extension most likely wasn't in the books, so our options were to trade him before the 18-19 season, trade him at the 18-19 deadline, or to lose him for nothing after the 18-19 season concludes.

Meaning, we were going to need a replacement C in 2019, we just expedited the process.

 

[Sensinitis]

OTT

1. Draisaitl, L
2. Klefbom, O
3. Strome, R
4. Nurse, D

EDM

1. Ryan, B
2. Karlsson, E
3. Dzingel, R
4. White, C
5. 2nd

Edmonton will need money to to resign Karlsson and White so will need cap space. Strome and Nurse should get raises so adding them helps with the numbers. For them to take on Ryan you have to sweeten the deal. money wise this works and I think both teams. Take out Ryan and it makes the deal easier.

I just can't see Edmonton wanting Ryan in any way + Lucic.

EWWWWW

 

[Do Make Say Think]

He's better than Turris. Pretty similar style although Turris is more of a shooter and Nuge is more of a playmaker.
He's a quality 2C.

I should add that I wouldn't want to give Hoffman for him.

That is the bottom line.

We should keep Hoffman, he works very well with Duchene.

 

[Stylizer1]

Not giving them White to take Ryan

It's not just that. Make contracts work and try and make it as even as possible. We are going young anyway so have Draisaitl, Strome, Brown, Batherson, Luchuk, Pageau, Smith in a couple of seasons, I think makes White expendable.

 

[Stylizer1]

EWWWWW

what's wrong?

 

[Liver King]

If you're expecting a return like this, the actual Karlsson trade will be devastating.

what would you expect? from Edmonton specifically

 

[Joider]

Since it's been a talking point on here today, I thought I'd mention that Garrioch wrote an article about the Hoffman for Nuge rumours.
Here's the article: Dorion hits the road with an eye toward next season

To paraphrase, the rumours are exactly that rumours. He also says that the team doesn't seem to want to trade Hoffman because of his chemistry with Duchene.
I wonder if Garrioch means it'll take more to get Hoffman or if Dorion's more reserved on the idea of trading him now.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Since it's been a talking point on here today, I thought I'd mention that Garrioch wrote an article about the Hoffman for Nuge rumours.
Here's the article: Dorion hits the road with an eye toward next season

To paraphrase, the rumours are exactly that rumours. He also says that the team doesn't seem to want to trade Hoffman because of his chemistry with Duchene.
I wonder if Garrioch means it'll take more to get Hoffman or if Dorion's more reserved on the idea of trading him now.

We can rely on Bruce to get to the bottom of it and let the fans know what the real scoop is right?

 

[RedWhiteBlackGold]

OTT

1. Draisaitl, L
2. Klefbom, O
3. Strome, R
4. Nurse, D

EDM

1. Ryan, B
2. Karlsson, E
3. Dzingel, R
4. White, C
5. 2nd

Edmonton will need money to to resign Karlsson and White so will need cap space. Strome and Nurse should get raises so adding them helps with the numbers. For them to take on Ryan you have to sweeten the deal. money wise this works and I think both teams. Take out Ryan and it makes the deal easier.

I just can't see Edmonton wanting Ryan in any way + Lucic.

Too many pieces moving to be realistic if you ask me and probably you trying hard to make a fair deal. Likely not a horrendous deal but maybe plug in a piece instead of White and us giving a 2nd... or take away from Edmonton and insert a diff piece.