Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread

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If only Plekanec and Gallagher were producing, this would have been a easier pill to swallow. Going in the playoffs with a Top 6 of only Pacioretty, Galchenyuk and Radulov is horrible. It gets even worst if one of those 3 gets injured.

We badly needed Vanek back or any legit Top 6 talent...

We can only pray that Plekanec or Gallagher finds a way to score goals again :shakehead
 

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If only Plekanec and Gallagher were producing, this would have been a easier pill to swallow. Going in the playoffs with a Top 6 of only Pacioretty, Galchenyuk and Radulov is horrible. It gets even worst if one of those 3 gets injured.

We badly needed Vanek back or any legit Top 6 talent...

We can only pray that Plekanec or Gallagher finds a way to score goals again :shakehead

We can't compete down the middle against Washington or Pittsburgh, Columbus has the edge on us. Rangers, Senators, Leafs and Bruins all have arguments that they are better down the middle than us.
 

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People still don't realize that even if Plekanec didn't hit the wall this season, he has yet to really have a dominant playoffs performance..................ever in his career and that has hurt us more than once..
 

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People still don't realize that even if Plekanec didn't hit the wall this season, he has yet to really have a dominant playoffs performance..................ever in his career and that has hurt us more than once..

We got 2 better centers now going into the playoffs (Galchenyuk, Danault)

and Danault strikes me as a playoff guy

Unlike previous years, Pleky isn't our top center anymore, which should be very good for us.
 

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At the very least, it gives the Habs another option and another look in the bottom six. I think he'll be a serviceable player and if he isn't, we'll always have Mitchell. I'd take both Mitchell and Ott over Flynn.

Mitchell has been bad for quite some time.
Despite not scoring it's the lack of execution on the detailed work I can't abide poor PK the blown faceoffs i.e. not scrambling draws and pathetic board play & losing all the one on one battles.
MT had deep faith in his swarm theory which is why we ended up with no checkers per se.
I've been berating the fact that are dzone is a mess because we often need two and even three players to turn a puck over. :help: This going as far back as 2013-2014.
 

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We got 2 better centers now going into the playoffs (Galchenyuk, Danault)

and Danault strikes me as a playoff guy

Unlike previous years, Pleky isn't our top center anymore, which should be very good for us.

He will get smoked if he doesn't improve on that sub 20% FO work he put in against Wenneberg.
 

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People still don't realize that even if Plekanec didn't hit the wall this season, he has yet to really have a dominant playoffs performance..................ever in his career and that has hurt us more than once..

This is exactly why I keep harping back to that ECF appearance.
I had faith the front office would pinpoint the problem areas and make them priority one for the following season. Plek and DD were such obvious sore points.
You can't have your top defensive specialist at -7 in the post season.
That should have been painfully clear to all.
It was to me and I posted as much at the time.
 

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Rangers, Senators, Leafs and Bruins all have arguments that they are better down the middle than us.

Rangers: Galchenyuk would be better than any of their centers. But, I agree we have no depth after him. However, our d-core is so much better compared to theirs.

Senators: Galchenyuk would be better than any of their centers. Brassard is marginally better than Plekanec. They have a worse top 6 than us. Not to mention we have a better d-core, and goaltending.

Leafs: Forward group is better, no question about that. That defense is absolute trash and Andersen is streaky.

Bruins: Again forward core is better, but their d-core is bad. Although, besides Pasta, Bergeron, and Marchand they don't have much.

Overall, I know Bergevin should have done a better job, but I am very confident we could beat any of these teams in the playoffs.
 

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The feeling I get is that Bergevin did what he could to get a scorer but GMs wouldn't budge from their incredibly high asking prices so talented players just didn't move, to anyone.

Guys like Chayka in Arizona I'm sure thought he did the right thing by not bending and trading a player for less but in the end they still won't make the playoffs and they cost themselves an asset at the draft where they really need them. Why he or other GMs in that situation wouldn't sell for whatever the bestboffer was is beyond me. It's not like other GMs would think "ok, we can just low ball him in the future and he'll cave" as every year is different as are the circumstances.

In any case, I think once it was clear the Habs weren't going to get scoring help they had to pivot to plan B. Not as sexy but went from a Chicago/Pittsburgh model to a more robust LA/SJ model and bulked up. Hoping they bigger more worker like guys could spark the smaller and more talented players and help insulate them and allow them to do their thing and Price do his. With Weber, Benn, Emelin, Ott, Shaw, King, Martinsen, McCarron etc it'll be a lot harder to get through these guys to get to Price.

Not ideal and not planned but you have to give them credit for the "in draft adjustment" to try and make this team a tougher opponent in the playoffs to play against. On top of all the meat they added, those players are all very good defensively as well. So we have a lot more size, physicality and better defensive ability than we had to win out close games now and into the payoffs. Price will need to be our saviour now more than ever.
 

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What's the deal with Patrick O’Sullivan? He says Price is almost guaranteed to walk at the end of his contract and that the Leafs could easily beat us in a playoff series. Someone should tell him we beat them 14 straight times. :laugh:

http://www.tsn.ca/video/have-the-habs-done-enough~1068326

I could see Price walking after next season sadly. Also, thinking the Leafs could beat us in a 7 games series is not much of a stretch either. Both teams are different form the beginning of that 14 win streak, but TOR has improved quite a lot and could have beaten us at least 2 times this season. Nothing easy, but I could see them beating us in a playoffs series if Andersen can hold his own.

I don't remember when it was, but there was a season in which we beat Boston 6 times in a row only to win the playoffs series in 7 games
 

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Absolutely no trade would have made a big enough difference to make the Habs a legit contender. Too many missing pieces.

Therefore, I think Bergevin did a good job at giving CJ some more tools without giving too many assets. Then, like it would have been the case anyway, the playoffs hopes rely on everybody getting hot at the same time while perfectly mastering CJ's system. Any team can go a long way with a hot goalie and everybody else doing his specific job at 100%.
 

LePoche69

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Bergevin should try to extend Price right away. If Price doesn't want to or asks for too much, then he should trade him.

No one is irreplaceable, and only Price would fetch enough in a trade to fix the other holes in the lineup. Then finding a "good" (not necessarily "great") goalie isn't that big of a problem, me think.
 

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Do you guys think Sergachev + Beaulieu and a 1st for Duchene would've been too much like MB thought it was?

What makes you think Sakic's price was so low?
I mean... that's quite a price for Duchene, but it's not like he absolutely HAS to deal him. I'm pretty certain he asked for Gallagher and/or another 1st to go along with the pieces already going to Colorado. And that he made similar requests to other teams.

My evidence? Well, there was no deal made with ANYONE.
 

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We can't compete down the middle against Washington or Pittsburgh, Columbus has the edge on us. Rangers, Senators, Leafs and Bruins all have arguments that they are better down the middle than us.

few teams can though...there was nothing the Habs could of done at the deadline to really push them ahead of Washington or Pittsburgh down the middle.

If the Habs are going to have any success these playoffs, it's going to come down to what we all thought we would need at the beginning of the year.

Carey Price

Habs will go as far as he and the rest of our leadership core will take us.
 

M.C.G. 31

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Friedman said in his 30 thoughts that we were out of the Duchene running when Bergevin said he wasn't moving Sergachev.
 

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Friedman said in his 30 thoughts that we were out of the Duchene running when Bergevin said he wasn't moving Sergachev.

At least he was smart in that sense. This team just isnt competitive enough right now. Dealing your best prospect would destroy out future. Well thats until he makes it to the AHL where he will be destroyed like most of our prospects are.
 

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What is crazy is... 5 years, and we have yet to ADD to our top 9. Every step forward is met by a step back or setback.
We have 0 prospects contributing offensively. None. : (
 
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