Confirmed Trade: [TOR/VAN] Josh Leivo for Michael Carcone

[Vancouver Canucks]

If only all fans could look at things from your perspective instead of tossing every player who is not lighting up the NHL every night on the scrap heap. Realistically, though, unless Carcone shows something in the second half of the season that he hasn’t shown before, he will be non-tendered when his ELC runs out at the end of the year. The writing was pretty much on the wall with his chances of ever making the Canucks lineup when he was the first player cut from training camp this year.

I think he is right.

 

[LarKing]

We totally won this trade, but the irony is that the Leafs are better than the Canucks, nevertheless.

You might want to look up the word irony.

 

[TheCLAM]

Nucks won this trade. I'm good with it though! Leivo didn't fit in our top 6 and wasn't going to get the necessary time to develop. We have a lot of young forwards with skill in the pipeline on the Marlies.

If Carcone can be an AHL top 6 who can play the odd call-up it's good by me.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

What a pessimistic outlook applicable to every prospect.

The key word here is "prospect"...

 

[Brew]

I'm happy to see Leivo succeeding in Vancouver. The guy is an NHL player, just what the Leafs already have made him the odd man out. Hope he can keep it up.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

You might want to look up the word irony.

You might want to read my post again; it's like you have no grasp of it.

 

[LarKing]

You might want to read my post again; it's like you have no grasp of it.

Nope, that isn’t irony. The leafs were expected to be better than the canucks even after them acquiring Leivo basically for free.

 

[Seras]

Glad to see him playing well, always liked him. Sad he couldn't make a spot in the top 9 but it happens.

 

[DoobieDubas]

Literally whole thread is leaf fans super happy for the guy! great fans supporting a local innisville boy atta be lads

 

[CraigBillington]

Nope, that isn’t irony. The leafs were expected to be better than the canucks even after them acquiring Leivo basically for free.

Exactly. It's just basically a thing that happens to be true.

 

[axlrose87]

I don't understand why this is such a hot topic.
Leafs fan complain about losing leivo the same way we complained about losing soshnikov, leipsic, rychel, carrick, frattin and other fringe nhl players.
This is the same thing. We all know that leivo is not an effective top 6 player. We also know that he is not good in a bottom six role. This is why he is not a good nhl player.
Yes, I'm sure the leafs could have extracted a 5th round pick out of someone. Instead, they chose to handle this situation with the players best interests in mind. They put him in the absolute best posssible situation for josh leivo. That reflects very well on the organization. It is worth much more then a 5th round pick (if they even could have gotten that).
Just like all the fringe nhl players the leafs have let go over the last two years, leivo will also have to scratch and claw to stay in the league. He probably won't for very long. Vancouver has a very weak lineup so at least he is getting a very good opportunity

 

[indigobuffalo]

The key word here is "prospect"...

What other word would you use to describe Carcone?

The Leafs couldn’t fit Leivo into the lineup, Carcone is a Leivo clone but 3 years behind in age.

That makes it so the Leafs get a push on “fitting” Leivo into the lineup.

I’m assuming you’re trying to make a point about how Leivo is NHL and Carcone is AHL...

 

[Dump Itch]

How is this thread still going? It's a scrub for scrub trade...

 

[leaffaninvancouver]

How is this thread still going? It's a scrub for scrub trade...

People are obsessed with winning trades even when they are fringe NHL players?

 

[LeafFever]

Tavares wanted to go there if it was the last thing he did

Then why did no one think that on this board? Funny how the narrative changes from "Dream On" Leaf fans to Dubas did nothing he was always going there.

Let's crap on Dubas for the Leivo trade but give zero credit to him signing the biggest UFA in 12 years for millions less than the Isanders and San Jose were offering.

Go back to the thread on his signing. NO ONE predicted Toronto.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

How is this thread still going? It's a scrub for scrub trade...

Because Leaf fans overrated and overvalued him. Although I will say they are more happy he's getting a fairer shot somewhere else now.

 

[LeafFever]

Because Leaf fans overrated and overvalued him. Although I will say they are more happy he's getting a fairer shot somewhere else now.

What?

Given he's playing better, doesn't that show Leaf fans were right? I am confused..

People need to drop the lazy "Leaf Fans Overrate Their Players". Have you missed how Rielly, Matthews, Marner are playing this season? Do you know what non-Leaf fans thought of those 3?

 

[Cygnusx1018]

Then why did no one think that on this board? Funny how the narrative changes from "Dream On" Leaf fans to Dubas did nothing he was always going there.

Let's crap on Dubas for the Leivo trade but give zero credit to him signing the biggest UFA in 12 years for millions less than the Isanders and San Jose were offering.

Go back to the thread on his signing. NO ONE predicted Toronto.

Because Tavares lied and constantly said that he did not want to play in toronto, before suddenly changing tune and talking about how this had always been his dream

 

[Filthy Dangles]

What?

Given he's playing better, doesn't that show Leaf fans were right? I am confused..

People need to drop the lazy "Leaf Fans Overrate Their Players". Have you missed how Rielly, Matthews, Marner are playing this season? Do you know what non-Leaf fans thought of those 3?

I'm talking about the return in a trade involving him. Good for him and VAN seeing early returns in the way of goals in the trade.

 

[TrillMike]

Literally whole thread is leaf fans super happy for the guy! great fans supporting a local innisville boy atta be lads

Thanks. The only reason I clicked into this thread is to see why there are 33 pages of comments.

 

[Liferleafer]

Thanks. The only reason I clicked into this thread is to see why there are 33 pages of comments.

It's most fans wanting to laugh at Leafs fans because "we lost a trade!!"....followed by Leafs fans wishing Leivo luck because we all knew that given the chance he'd perform well, the return was low because the Leafs were more interested in opening up a roster spot, but that's to boring...so back to "Leafs iz so dumbz...derp...derp...".

 

[pulfordfan]

Funny some Canuck fan raving about how they got one over on Kyle. Meanwhile he knew he wasn't getting full value before he picked up the phone. Nice he full filled his promise and got a nice home for Leivo... Their management have been know to make some bad moves especially with starting goalies, does Luongo, Schneider and Lack ring a bell?

 

[LemonSauceD]

Then why did no one think that on this board? Funny how the narrative changes from "Dream On" Leaf fans to Dubas did nothing he was always going there.

Let's crap on Dubas for the Leivo trade but give zero credit to him signing the biggest UFA in 12 years for millions less than the Isanders and San Jose were offering.

Go back to the thread on his signing. NO ONE predicted Toronto.

Do you know what hindsight is? The months after he signed with Toronto it become more and more apparent that Toronto was always his destination.

 

[LeafFever]

Do you know what hindsight is? The months after he signed with Toronto it become more and more apparent that Toronto was always his destination.

It should have been apparent to everyone here. I seriously questioned many who stated San Jose is better than Toronto and never got a straight answer why.(San Jose had worse stats LAST season).

Toronto was his destination because it was his best shot at a cup.

 

[LeafFever]

Funny some Canuck fan raving about how they got one over on Kyle. Meanwhile he knew he wasn't getting full value before he picked up the phone. Nice he full filled his promise and got a nice home for Leivo... Their management have been know to make some bad moves especially with starting goalies, does Luongo, Schneider and Lack ring a bell?

People need to leave Dubas alone. Babcock would not play him. At some point you need to let a player go and give him a chance.

It's ironic, because on the mainboards there was once a thread destoying the Leafs because they were ruining Frank Corrado by not playing him Many were Canuck fans as the Leafs picked him up on waivers from them.

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