I think Johnsson is the first to move on that list.
Kapanen will be the most desirable to others and bring back the most value, but I think he still has a big role on this team.
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I think Johnsson is the first to move on that list.
Kapanen will be the most desirable to others and bring back the most value, but I think he still has a big role on this team.
But trading Kapanen is differnt because if the Leafs do anything right it's find and develop wingers, that's kind of what they do.
The Leafs have an endless supply of wingers, trading Kapanen sucks because I doubt there are 5 faster players than him but they can afford to do it especially for a D.
Centers? the pipeline is somewhat bare to say the least. Now it's not a huge issue because Matthews and Tavares exist so there is time to fix that but you probably shouldn't be creating giant holes at center right now
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Are you really criticizing Dubas over the Leafs center depth? Just because it's dumb to give away one of their centers for a pick doesn't mean he did anything wrong. The Leafs should trade a winger
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And in a non salary cap world you are 100% correct. If the cap went up to 84-85 m even you can find a way to make it work. But how do you make it work post virus 81.5m cap? With Barabanov, Leafs are at 77.9m with 10f and Dermott needing resigning. That is too tight and that is even neglecting Leafs need for another defensemen. Oh by the way possibly needing a no 1 goalie in 2021. (And stop that you can make Alex P at 8.5-9m fit.)
If its legit trade offer then Marner and Nylander you have to listen. If you trade Kap for a d-man that is more cash on the cap (900k more if Manson 2m more if Risto as examples) So say you trade Kap for Manson, trade Johnsson/Kerfoot for pick(cap space would be needed) and that forward depth is UGLY.
Its ugly solutions wherever you turn.
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I am criticizing Dubas for spending like a drunken sailor and being up so close to the cap. If you add a 4-5 million d-man, legit players have to go to make the cap. Yes Leafs got screwed by not having cap 84m. But Dubas is far from perfect.
I have never said they can make AP fit so I'm not really sure why you brought that up, to do that they'd have to go with a dirt cheap 3rd line.
Thing is I don't think they need an AP level guy, don't get me wrong it'd be nice but I think they need a Larsson, Manson, Hamonic level guy.
One thing I'd bet on, the core goes nowhere, for better or worse Dubas has a vision and it doesn't appear he's changing it.
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You did not bring up AP and no way slight against you. But there are Leafs fans convinced AP will sign there and I just roll my eyes.
Manson =900k more than Kapanen in trade. Hamonic is going to get 4m a year (should be less but in free agency players usually are bid up). This is my question. (caps not angry just emphasis) WHO DO YOU GET RID OF TO MAKE THE CAP WORK? It doesn't fit under the cap to trade Kapanen/pick for Manson and retain everyone. It doesn't fit to sign Hamonic and keep everyone else over 3m salary. You can trade Johnnson and Kerfoot sign Hamonic and have 1m players all across 3rd/4th line. But are the Leafs better?
Whether you think Minny would do that or not, the value isn't really that far off, if at all. Kerfoot is no star, but take a look at what guys like him trade for. If it were a deadline deal, a second and 4th might even be underselling Kerfoot.
I was saying Minnesota wouldn't trade a young c like Joel Eriksson Ek for kerfoot . Also, if Minnesota trades for a 1 c, they have no room for kerfoot
Minnesota c next year will be
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Staal
Joel Eriksson Ek
Sturm.
Wild also will have plenty of c depth & budding 1 or 2c on Iowa wild in Alexander Khovanov
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In a vacuum? Using a hypothetical 2nd rounder? To a team that needs Kerfoot? Maybe.
Considering that we're very specifically talking about Minnesota and their 2nd rounder? No, the value still isn't good.
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This is a massive assumption.
No we don't. We have Ek, Sturm, Rask and Khovanov in the entire system after the 2020-21 season.
It depends on who those players are for example can you do better than Gauthier? yes you can.
The big question revolves around Mikieve, not because of what he gets on a new deal because he's going to be cheap because he got hurt plus the season was stopped so his bargaining power is limited.
The question about him is his health is he 100%? if so he may be able to replace Johnsson, certainly looked like he could before his wrist got slashed.
Had that not happened Johnsson probably isn't a Leaf today.
It is tough to better with a bottom 6 that cheap and it's not ideal but it's possible especially with a backup goalie that can actually win games.
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Teams are supposed to spend up to the cap unless they have an internal budget
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Teams are also supposed to have a plan for the future when free agents like Alex P. become available, instead of watching on the side unable to make the team better.
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So you expect Dubas to spend at least 10-11 million under the cap just in case there might be a good free agent for him to sign at some point? What if Pietrangelo isn't interested in playing for Toronto? Seems like a very odd expectation
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Why spend money on a good player now when you could have a CHANCE at spending mpney on a good money later?
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getting a short term, low aav player that can play as a defensive 3C would be a good idea no?You want to save cap space...by going to the free agent market
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It seems more odd expectation to trade Kadri for a 1 year asset that because of cap management you could never keep. It seems incredibly really really odd expectation when you have enough offense on the team to trade for a pp specialist d who is weak on D end.
It seems more odd expectation when you need defense to not have any cap room for defense help. It is a very odd expectation when the defense was not good enough to get by the Bruins, that the defensive player that was going to change things was Barrie? Barrie serves a legit pp quarterback for team in need. But with Reilly the Leafs didn't need that. They needed a shutdown d-man.
It seems more odd that the cap management was so bad that you had a backup goalie that couldn't stop a beach ball in Hutch. If you think Dubas cap management is good please explain to me Hutch on roster for 40+ games.
Dubas is a fantasy gm at an auction draft. Sure you overspend and get sexy players at the top of the draft. But its a team that has no shot to win because players 8-20 are no where near as good as good as TB or Boston. And they are fixable problems with right gm. Leafs are in better shape at least 15 if not 20 teams in the league.
