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I did read it, but that comparison wasn't clear given your word choice.
I read it as he intended it. I saw no issue with phrasing. He was clearly talking about defensive acumen.
I did read it, but that comparison wasn't clear given your word choice.
well i guess you are better than I amI read it as he intended it. I saw no issue with phrasing. He was clearly talking about defensive acumen.
well i guess you are better than I am
ObviouslyThe biggest problem I have with Meier is that he doesn't do anything at a high-end level and he has never produced without playing next to a superstar. Ehlers in Halifax, McDavid at the Top Prospects Game, Fiala at the WJC. Anyone saying "ok but what about Ehlers with Drouin" is ignoring that Ehlers didn't play with Drouin at even strength and Meier was attached to Ehlers' hip.
Meier is also one of the oldest players in this draft, which is a terrible sign considering his production from the 13-14 season.
You can say "he protects his star teammates" or "he is able to keep up with stars" but at the end of the day we have no stars for him to "keep up" with.
Obviously I cannot read the future but right now this looks like a disaster of a pick. Absolute disaster.
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well i guess you are better than I am
When both Meier and Rantanen were being rated defensively, I dont understand how you cant see that Barzal was too considering he was part of the same list
if you insist.....
2006 Joe Thornton was an offensive juggernaut and arguably the best offensive player in the world. When discussing 2006 Joe Thornton's play without context, the clear assumption is that any reference would be regarding his offensive output, i.e, when have you ever heard someone bring up 06 Joe in reference to his defense. Had the poster said "defensively, meier is the best etc, Rantanen is xxx, and Barzal is like 2006 Thornton" then that post would be more clear, as the clear subject of the sentence would be about defense. But the way he phrased it absolutely left it up to interpretation, based on both the subject matter (06 Joe) and the way English grammar works.
For example, if i said "Pittsburgh's defense isn't that good, and their forwards are not good defensively either, but they have Sidney Crosby", it is very unclear if i mean that crosby's offense makes up for the poor defense, OR if i mean that despite the forwards being poor defensively, Crosby is elite defensively and that makes up for his teammates faults.
You weren't even part of the conversation, idk why it matters so much to you how I interpreted a sentence with poor grammar
Meier is superior defensively
Rantenan is average defensively
Barzal is like 2006 Joe Thornton
And you thought he meant Barzal will put up 90 assists? lol
Sorry you tried to point out how one poster was wrong but it turned out you were wrong, I know how its always ok for you to do it but not ok for someone to do it to you
Ok to do what? i don't even know a) what you are talking about, b) who you are and why you are addressing me like we have a history, and c) why you are so engaged in my posting behavior. Pick up a hobby, bud
Oh man, i eyed this one for a bump the other day, but you pulled the trigger. Shots fired.Obviously
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I'm obviously just ribbing her for the last paragraph. Meier undoubtedly wasn't the best player left at #9, but he's far from a horrible pick.I have no dog in this fight, but considering Mikko Rantanen leads the league with 21 points in 13 games, you might want to lay off a little bit.....
"disaster"I'm obviously just ribbing her for the last paragraph. Meier undoubtedly wasn't the best player left at #9, but he's far from a horrible pick.
The stats are much more flattering for this season.
6th in goals (T-MacKinnon)
19th in points (T-Ovechkin/Crosby)
4th in EV goals (>Matthews (!!!))
11th in EV points (T-Matthews, >McDavid (!!!!))
However, it’s too small of a sample size. I highly doubt he finishes the season ahead of the NHL’s best even strength goal scorer in EV goals, or ahead of the NHL’s best even strength point scorer in points.
Stop giving kirz topics to write aboutMeier is 4th in the NHL in even strength goals since December 14, 2017.
I called him "Corey Perry + ceiling" back when we drafted him. I guess Benn is a more recent comparableIt seem Meier has hit another level this season. I can see his upside being Jamie Benn. Like Meier is already our best winger. I have ranted about Barzal and Rantanen but at this moment I almost like Timo more than Barzal. I don't think Timo will win rocket but he is definitely scoring over 30 goals. Maybe even 40 is possible if anything drastic won't happen.