The Tomas Plekanec Thread

[ITM]

Komarov and Plekanec both suck.

Thankfully, we still have guys like Moore and Leivo who could replace them.

Unfortunately, Babcock is our coach.

In a fantasy hockey playoffs pool, one typically selects on the basis of regular season stats. So say Crosby is available. He's had Malkin, Fleury, Letang...he could be a product of his environment. Maybe he's talented. Consistent winning seems to indicate the latter.

When Babcock was available, there wasn't, and hasn't been, a better coach on the market since. Maybe he's the product of his former environment. Maybe he's talented. Consistently winning wherever he goes seems to indicate the latter.

And, fortunately, since he's been here, his Maple Leafs club, seems to have done more in the regular season than any other.

How in the hades, can someone on one hand, say in relief, that thankfully, we can lean on Josh Leivo (and I'm a Leivo fan and have defended him in the HFboards jungle outside the Leafs section) and Moore, but lament a coach that has had the success he's had everywhere he's gone, but more importantly, a game ago, as the coach of a franchise setting regular season?

 

[ITM]

Martin and Johnsson and Leivo would be nice adds. Grit and enthusiasm can go a long way in a playoffs series to provide our top line talent a little more room to work.

I'd insert Justin Holl and Andreas Borgman while we're at it. Holl looked fantastic while paired with Dermott and Borgman has at times been a real deterrent owing to his physical play.

 

[pheasant]

He played 10 minutes in game 1. The only thing I noticed was him looking disinterested. It was like he was in a preseason game.

I kept saying "wait until the playoffs to judge him." Well, fire away now, everyone. This guy is a disgrace out there.

There isn't a single Leafs player from recent memory that I wouldn't rather have in the lineup for Game 2. I'd prefer Mike VanRyn as the 4th line C. And I'm only borderline joking.

 

[PaulD]

In a fantasy hockey playoffs pool, one typically selects on the basis of regular season stats. So say Crosby is available. He's had Malkin, Fleury, Letang...he could be a product of his environment. Maybe he's talented. Consistent winning seems to indicate the latter.

When Babcock was available, there wasn't, and hasn't been, a better coach on the market since. Maybe he's the product of his former environment. Maybe he's talented. Consistently winning wherever he goes seems to indicate the latter.

And, fortunately, since he's been here, his Maple Leafs club, seems to have done more in the regular season than any other.

How in the hades, can someone on one hand, say in relief, that thankfully, we can lean on Josh Leivo (and I'm a Leivo fan and have defended him in the HFboards jungle outside the Leafs section) and Moore, but lament a coach that has had the success he's had everywhere he's gone, but more importantly, a game ago, as the coach of a franchise setting regular season?

Since Nick Lidstrom retired Babcock teams have won 1 play off round in 7 years.

 

[PaulD]

Tomas Turtleneck has never been a play off performer. He is a career plus in regular season and a career minus in play offs.

Honest Hab fans will tell you he was finished long ago. (Check their board) What you see from Pleks is what he has been doing since late 015 season.

Difference is Montreal game him twice the ice time, played him on the first line, 3 on 3 and PK. Why? That is a whole other story , not for a Leaf board.

I told every leaf fan friend when Lou traded for him this is what they would get from Pleks......nothing.

My only surprise is Babs not healthy scratching him yet.

I guarantee Pleks wont finish the series. Babs will scratch him.

 

[PaulD]

He played 10 minutes in game 1. The only thing I noticed was him looking disinterested. It was like he was in a preseason game.

I kept saying "wait until the playoffs to judge him." Well, fire away now, everyone. This guy is a disgrace out there.

There isn't a single Leafs player from recent memory that I wouldn't rather have in the lineup for Game 2. I'd prefer Mike VanRyn as the 4th line C. And I'm only borderline joking.

Bang on .

 

[ITM]

Since Nick Lidstrom retired Babcock teams have won 1 play off round in 7 years.

Said otherwise, it's commonplace for starless teams to win championships?

 

[PromisedLand]

Plekanec looks so disinterested out there on the ice in blue and white; babcock's hard on for him is cringe worthy

 

[hamzarocks]

Everybody thing that is said about Tomas plekanec isnt enough. He is a worse player than gauthier. Hopefully Moore gets the call in game 3

 

[Skip Bayless]

Look at his career stats, look at how he plays. Wonder how the f*** was he able to be a 50 pts player.

He played 10 minutes in game 1. The only thing I noticed was him looking disinterested. It was like he was in a preseason game.

I kept saying "wait until the playoffs to judge him." Well, fire away now, everyone. This guy is a disgrace out there.

There isn't a single Leafs player from recent memory that I wouldn't rather have in the lineup for Game 2. I'd prefer Mike VanRyn as the 4th line C. And I'm only borderline joking.

He's one of the worst playoff performers I've seen with the habs. We kept on losing in the first or 2nd round and he was playing 20 min. per game year after year.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

i'll never blame anyone for not performing well with a player like Komarov. Not everyone is a Matthews who can do everything himself at 5v5

 

[MattySnipes]

he was playing 20 min. per game

Yeah, thats why. He doesn't have the ability to play that much (1C mins).

But we don't have him in that role, hes a 4th line guy maybe 8-12 min tops. He should be fine. When he played that game with AJ and Kappy they were actually pretty damn good.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Yeah, thats why. He doesn't have the ability to play that much (1C mins).

But we don't have him in that role, hes a 4th line guy maybe 8-12 min tops. He should be fine. When he played that game with AJ and Kappy they were actually pretty damn good.

I'm not a fan of him in that role either. He's soft as butter, lost all of his offense which was based on his speed. Not even that good on faceoffs. In his prime he would've been a damn fine 3rd line C, but he was asked to do too much and overrated.

 

[moon111]

Depends on what you consider success. It's not Komarov or Plekanec's job to fire a single shot at the opposing net. These Corsi stats are pretty much useless unless you are using them for some kind of two-way play statistic. Since they are not two-way players, the stats are pretty much useless. Last night, Brad Marchand has the puck and doesn't pass it to the point. Komarov has it covered. Job 100% done. Period. But Marchand does pass it to an open man, who should of been covered by Plekanec. (Whether Plekanec's panic on Hainsey's positioning is warranted is up to debate.)The fourth line is designed to handle losing the draw in the defensive zone. Period. The biggest problem with Plekanec doing his job is when someone fails to do theirs, and that's rarely Komarov. When someone messes up, the whole system breaks down. But don't evaluate these guys on two-way play when they're not even being asked to play that way.

 

[realgoodleafs]

We traded for a guy who in years past has described his own play in the playoffs as being "like a little girl".

 

[Jozay]

Please stop trading 2nd round picks for 4th line centers.

Him and boyle didnt do shit when they were here.

 

[Duffman955]

Holy shit, I hate this guy more on the leafs, than I did when he played for the Habs. Man this guy is f***ing awful

 

[DarkKnight]

Just admit we made a mistake and move on from this carcass of a player. The Goat is better than this guy.

 

[Leafin]

I said it earlier in this thread... this guy is a dumpster fire. Epic fail on the part of Lou. 2 years in a row throwing 2nd round picks in the trash.

Still no top 4 defender acquired.

Embarrassing trade deadline.

 

[frog]

Since Nick Lidstrom retired Babcock teams have won 1 play off round in 7 years.

Since Kariya and Selanne left he has won only 1 stanley cup.

 

[PaulD]

Since Kariya and Selanne left he has won only 1 stanley cup.

He didnt win with them either.

 

[PaulD]

We traded for a guy who in years past has described his own play in the playoffs as being "like a little girl".

yep that was in 08 when he was in his prime

been invisible his entire career from game 83 on

 

[Al14]

Just send him HOME! Montreal is where he actually wants to be anyways!

 

[NikoPopp]

I actually dislike him more playing for us than I did when he was a hab

 

[PaulD]

Said otherwise, it's commonplace for starless teams to win championships?

whos ia talking championships.......i was talking a play off round