The Official WTF is Pierre Dorion doing thread

[Lenny the Lynx]

I have to guess here he wanted methot to be picked

 

[Sun God Nika]

Well time to get back the Fire Dorrion Title.

 

[Flamingo]

I hope that we're concerned about cap space and signing someone new. And not just staying under the internal budget.

 

[SPF6ty9]

So Dahlen for Burrows = great deal, hugs and high fives.

But 2nd rounder in 2020 for Methot = too rich for Dorion's blood?

Huh?

There has to be something behind the scenes here. It just doesn't make sense why we wouldn't match that. Especially with all this Phaneuf stuff going on.

 

[Super Cake]

Well time to get back the Fire Dorrion Title.

If this is hypothetically a internal budget issue, then we all should go to the Fire Melnyk Title.

 

[Sun God Nika]

SPECULATION

I'm gonna assume Melynk told Dorrion he can't add Methot back unless he unloaded Phaneuf, thats why dorrion was trying to unload phaneuf and McPhee waited so long to move Methot.

 

[Benjamin]

I hope that we're concerned about cap space and signing someone new. And not just staying under the internal budget.

Signing a Smith/Kulikov to a short term deal and signing Kovalchuk. I also think Claesson is capable and ready for more minutes on top of being a regular.

 

[BondraTime]

Budget stuff doesn't make a lot of sense to me - Ottawa's preferred option was to have Phaneuf waive his NMC to preserve the top-4, so they must have had money for it.

Do you think Ottawa wouldn't have punted a draft pick 3 years down the road to keep Methot? Of course they would - it's illogical not to; we're about to go dumpster diving on July 1st to get a replacement who won't be as good. My prediction would be that Vegas didn't even give the Sens a chance to bring Methot back.

This is a garbage for us no matter what happened.

How would that make any sense?

What does Vegas gain by eliminating one of the main teams in what would create bidding to get a better return?

McPhee, if he was a competent GM, would have spoken to Dorian to tell him Dallas' offer, trying to maximise his asset by letting a team beat the current bid.

You don't stop an auction without seeing if there is going to be a higher bidder.

 

[GWNR]

How would that make any sense?

What does Vegas gain by eliminating one of the main teams in what would create bidding to get a better return?

McPhee, if he was a competent GM, would have spoken to Dorian to tell him Dallas' offer, trying to maximise his asset by letting a team beat the current bid.

You don't stop an auction without seeing if there is going to be a higher bidder.

Exactly.

I think the speculation is correct. Dorion was told you can keep Phaneuf or Methot.

 

[Fandlauer]

SPECULATION

I'm gonna assume Melynk told Dorrion he can't add Methot back unless he unloaded Phaneuf, thats why dorrion was trying to unload phaneuf and McPhee waited so long to move Methot.

Certainly a possibility.

If anyone is willing to claim that they lost money after 3 rounds of playoffs and a 17 million dollar expansion cheque it's Melnyk.

 

[GWNR]

Certainly a possibility.

If anyone is willing to claim that they lost money after 3 rounds of playoffs and a 17 million dollar expansion cheque it's Melnyk.

Pathetic. He's a ****ing disgrace.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Dorion made himself look good by getting a few good depth players during the season, but after all is said and done, we're left with no #2 dman, a rapidly declining 4th liner in Burrows for two more years at a high price(which we gave up one of our few quality F prospects for), and some kids who'll apparently need to fill in positions they aren't ready for.

Pierre better have a trick up his sleeve this offseason, otherwise I don't see how we can repeat the kind of success we had this year so far. He got lucky with Condon imo, but otherwise I don't see how those moves will keep paying off.

 

[Cheapseats]

I find Dorion is his own biggest fan, trumpeting everything he does. I wonder how many players came up and hugged him after this, idiot...

 

[Sun God Nika]

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Certainly a possibility.

If anyone is willing to claim that they lost money after 3 rounds of playoffs and a 17 million dollar expansion cheque it's Melnyk.

The team also has missed the playoffs twice in the last few years and hasn't had a lot of home gates the times they have made it. It's entirely possibly Melnyk looks at this run as averaging things out rather than giving the team surplus money to spend considering in the past he has claimed we need to make the playoffs to break even/profit.

 

[Fandlauer]

Pathetic. He's a ****ing disgrace.

He really is a goddamn disgrace. Then people give Sens fans **** for not showing up to games. **** em all.

 

[IranCondraAffair]

Until I see what our roster looks like to start the season, I am very confused. Two things come to mind immediately:

1. Budget, Budget, budget. Losing Methot to expansion might have been Ottawa's way of letting go of Methot without engendering too much animosity for their internal budget.

2. McPhee didn't come back to Ottawa to see if they'd match because of the extortion draft shenanigans and the fact he was never able to match the return he initially sought from Ottawa in the trade market.

3. Ottawa's internal evaluation had Methot pegged below alternatives on the Free Agent market. (possible).

4. Ottawa just wanted to give Chabot (or other young players) ice-time and there was no other way to justify it to the fanbase.

 

[Ouroboros]

How would that make any sense?

What does Vegas gain by eliminating one of the main teams in what would create bidding to get a better return?

McPhee, if he was a competent GM, would have spoken to Dorian to tell him Dallas' offer, trying to maximise his asset by letting a team beat the current bid.

You don't stop an auction without seeing if there is going to be a higher bidder.

Spite? Maybe McPhee was angry that Ottawa were one of the few teams that wouldn't accommodate his extortionary demands before the expansion draft. Embarrassment? Having to go back to Dorion hat-in-hand asking for so much less than you were demanding for him a week ago. There are lots of reasons why Ottawa could have been frozen out here.

I'd like to hear what Dorion has to say.

 

[GWNR]

Spite? Maybe McPhee was angry that Ottawa were one of the few teams that wouldn't accommodate his extortionary demands before the expansion draft. Embarrassment? Having to go back to Dorion hat-in-hand asking for so much less than you were demanding for him a week ago. There are lots of reasons why Ottawa could have been frozen out here.

I'd like to hear what Dorion has to say.

He'll probably say Melnyk gave him a hug.

 

[God Says No]

Dorion needs to answer. It doesn't make sense that we couldn't top that deal.

 

[Cheapseats]

Spite? Maybe McPhee was angry that Ottawa were one of the few teams that wouldn't accommodate his extortionary demands before the expansion draft. Embarrassment? Having to go back to Dorion hat-in-hand asking for so much less than you were demanding for him a week ago. There are lots of reasons why Ottawa could have been frozen out here.

I'd like to hear what Dorion has to say.

He will put a great spin on it.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Spite? Maybe McPhee was angry that Ottawa were one of the few teams that wouldn't accommodate his extortionary demands before the expansion draft. Embarrassment? Having to go back to Dorion hat-in-hand asking for so much less than you were demanding for him a week ago. There are lots of reasons why Ottawa could have been frozen out here.

I'd like to hear what Dorion has to say.

Dorrion won't address it, and none of the media has the balls to make him address it. Karlsson ain't getting a cup with this team I wish him the very best in 2 years.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Dorion needs to answer. It doesn't make sense that we couldn't top that deal.

We have the most annoying upper management/ownership in the league.

 

[mcnorth]

So Dahlen for Burrows = great deal, hugs and high fives.

But 2nd rounder in 2020 for Methot = too rich for Dorion's blood?

Huh?

There has to be something behind the scenes here. It just doesn't make sense why we wouldn't match that. Especially with all this Phaneuf stuff going on.

I'm pretty pissed right now. This organization has some explaining to do.

 

[Fandlauer]

Dorrion won't address it, and none of the media has the balls to make him address it. Karlsson ain't getting a cup with this team I wish him the very best in 2 years.

Imagine him in Edmonton or Pittsburgh? He's absolutely going to go to a team that's willing to build a contender.

He's going to win a lot of cups for somebody.