The MLD 2012 Thread II

[Michael Farkas]

I changed your vote to fix that. You get the same benefit as anyone else. I don't have the sheet with me at work, but I think you had 1st place wrapped up either way.

(in case anyone is wondering, I have always done this for others who don't vote themselves 1st, it has happened about 5-6 times before)

Oh, you're supposed to vote for yourself as first place? I was wondering why you vote for your own division, I would have guessed it would be better to avoid the situation completely and just vote cross-division...

 

[seventieslord]

Oh, you're supposed to vote for yourself as first place? I was wondering why you vote for your own division, I would have guessed it would be better to avoid the situation completely and just vote cross-division...

it wasn't always this way. But a few years back this feature was introduced as an incentive to vote (by VI) and has worked well, so we've left it in.

(and, I would be remiss to not mention that this was in the PM I sent soliciting votes )

 

[seventieslord]

MLD 2012 FIRST ALL-STAR ROSTER

Coach: Emile Francis (REG)

Dubbie Kerr (MDH) - Ulf Nilsson (WSM) - Brian Bellows (CON)
Tomas Vanek (ZAM) - Sven Tumba (BRY) - Jiri Lala (MTM)
Murph Chamberlain (REG) - Larry Patey (YAR) - Jim Roberts (ZAM)
Billy Gilmour (ZAM) - Mike Ricci (MTM) - Pat Flatley (LOK)

Brian Campbell (MDH) - Bryan McCabe (REG)
Willie Mitchell (CON) - Kenny Jonsson (CON)
Paul Shmyr (REG) - Mike Green (ZAM)

Paddy Moran (ZAM)
Tom Paton (REG)

spares:
Alexei Zhamnov (WPG)
Marty McSorley (REG)
Syl Apps Jr. (MTM)
Hy Buller (YAR)

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note: the spare selections reflect the two top spare vote-getters and the two remaining players with the most "dominant" voting scores at forward and defense.

 

[seventieslord]

MLD 2012 SECOND ALL-STAR ROSTER

Coach: Jacques Martin (SHB)

Moose Watson (REG) - Herb Jordan (SHB) - Valeri Kamensky (PBD)
Steve Thomas (CHI) - Andre Lacroix (CON) - Bob McDougall (LOK)
Claude Larose (MTO) - Mikko Koivu (PBD) - Bill Fairbairn (PBD)
Bob MacMillan (REG) - Charlie Burns (WSM) - Grant Warwick (MTM)

Bob Dailey (SHB) - Bingo Kampman (YAR)
Walter Buswell (ZAM) - Weldy Young (PBD)
Kim Johnsson (BRY) - Tomas Kaberle (YAR)

Don Edwards (SHB)
Pete Peeters (PBH)

spares:
Vladamir Zabrodsky (ZAM)
Udo Kiessling (WSM)
Nick Libett (SHB)
Drew Doughty (REG)

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note: same as with the first team, two best spares plus best remaining forward and defenseman based on voting. Also, I can't always stay faithful to correct wings, as the lines the players are on reflect their places in the voting. if they are both LWs, one will be listed on the right.

 

[seventieslord]

MLD 2012 THIRD ALL-STAR ROSTER

Coach: Bun Cook (ZAM)

Zach Parise (MTM) - Billy Taylor (CHI) - Nikolai Drozdetsky (RAL)
Steve Vickers (YAR) - Pierre Larouche (RAL) - Carson Cooper (PBH)
Baldy Cotton (REG) - Charlie Sands (ZAM) - Sami Kapanen (YAR)
Dave Tippett (MDH) - Brian Skrudland (PBH) - Chico Maki (SHB)

Jeff Brown (CHI) - Howard McNamara (LOK)
Miroslav Dvorak (ZAM) - Phat Wilson (PBH)
Jay Bouwmeester (MTM) - Doug Young (ZAM)

Johnny Mowers (LOK)
J.S. Giguere (MTM)

spares:
Ron Duguay (REG)
Skene Ronan (MDH)
Bob Carpenter (LOK)
Joe Jerwa (CHI)

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[tarheelhockey]

The Maroons had 7 all stars but finished 7th in their division. Weird...

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Well I voted for All Stars but not rankings and I would have had the Maroons a bit higher.

That said, the Maroons have a great group of forwards and good goaltending, but their defense is pretty weak

 

[tarheelhockey]

That said, the Maroons have a great group of forwards and good goaltending, but their defense is pretty weak

True, looking back I remember thinking their bottom-6 and defense were a bit problematic.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Also, thanks to everyone voting for our team. Sorry that neither of us has had much time in recent weeks.

Just relating to our team, my biggest surprise is seeing Tomas Vanek on the first team, but Jimmy Ward nowhere to be found. I really did think Ward was out best overall forward

 

[BillyShoe1721]

Not a single mention for Winnipeg?

 

[Dreakmur]

Just relating to our team, my biggest surprise is seeing Tomas Vanek on the first team, but Jimmy Ward nowhere to be found. I really did think Ward was out best overall forward

Yeah, I thought Ward was easily our best forward. He wasn't really an offensive star, but he's got legit top-6 offense, and that's the weakest part of his game. He's more of a jack-of-all-skills. Perhaps, just like real NHL award voting, guys like Vanek, who are amazing in one aspect, get recognized for that.

Can't complainm too much though - our team got lots of love, which is appreciated. I was especially happy to see Moran and Gilmour on the first team.

 

[tony d]

Good to see my team finish 3rd, feel really good about this team and would like to thank everyone who voted me into 3rd. Should be an interesting playoff round. Hopefully someone steps up from my opponent's team and engages in a meaningful debate.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Not a single mention for Winnipeg?

I definitely considered your top 3 centers and Babinov. Not sure if any made my voting cut though

 

[seventieslord]

Yeah, I thought Ward was easily our best forward. He wasn't really an offensive star, but he's got legit top-6 offense, and that's the weakest part of his game. He's more of a jack-of-all-skills. Perhaps, just like real NHL award voting, guys like Vanek, who are amazing in one aspect, get recognized for that.

Can't complainm too much though - our team got lots of love, which is appreciated. I was especially happy to see Moran and Gilmour on the first team.

You guys finally proved where Gilmour belonged. No one did that before. I voted him pretty highly myself.

Low GP should probably keep him an MLDer, but a very good MLD role player. The kind you draft before a couple 2nd liners.

 

[seventieslord]

Also, thanks to everyone voting for our team. Sorry that neither of us has had much time in recent weeks.

Just relating to our team, my biggest surprise is seeing Tomas Vanek on the first team, but Jimmy Ward nowhere to be found. I really did think Ward was out best overall forward

After giving your team a more thorough review in your series, I am thinking the same thing. Vanek, though definitely a better player than the Courtnalls, barely beats them in percentage scores... which I have to admit surprised me.

Ward should have probably gotten a closer look from me for round 2, as he has more or less the same best 6 percentage scores as Gagnon (outstanding percentages being the reason I selected Gagnon), and an obvious physical edge. Which one benefitted more from their linemates is another matter worth exploring.

 

[seventieslord]

let's vote on round 1, what do you guys think?

 

[vecens24]

let's vote on round 1, what do you guys think?

I wouldn't be opposed to starting voting now/tomorrow, as long as it runs through Sunday at midnight because I'm going out of town and probably won't have my laptop with me.

 

[seventieslord]

I wouldn't be opposed to starting voting now/tomorrow, as long as it runs through Sunday at midnight because I'm going out of town and probably won't have my laptop with me.

any chance you can vote before leaving? that's a long time to leave voting open.

 

[seventieslord]

Results coming in the morning. Last chance to votes for those who haven't.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I don't know if this needs to be corrected for posterity, but I just noticed that Winnipeg actually did have an All Star -- Alexei Zhamnov, who is mistakenly listed as a Montreal Maroon.

 

[seventieslord]

I don't know if this needs to be corrected for posterity, but I just noticed that Winnipeg actually did have an All Star -- Alexei Zhamnov, who is mistakenly listed as a Montreal Maroon.

thank you for pointing that out; I fixed it.

Coulda sworn that BenchBrawl drafted him.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

The spelling of pick 766 Bill Thoms' last name still has not been fixed in the ATD thread there > http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1134463 . Since people use the drafts as a way to get ideas for players, it needs to be fixed.

 

[seventieslord]

The spelling of pick 766 Bill Thoms' last name still has not been fixed in the ATD thread there > http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1134463 . Since people use the drafts as a way to get ideas for players, it needs to be fixed.

done

 

[Say Hey Kid]

done

Thanks!

 

[Velociraptor]

thank you for pointing that out; I fixed it.

Coulda sworn that BenchBrawl drafted him.

He did draft him last year, and he did offer his thoughts on him during the draft, so that's probably where you acquired that intention.