Player Discussion The Klingberg Conundrum (Re-Sign/Trade/Lose to FA)

[Captain Awesome]

I don't recognize those names so lets just trade him straight up for Necas.

Damn dude, you are going to be disappointed by the return.

 

[Kipper 17]

Damn dude, you are going to be disappointed by the return.

I’m going to dream big! But ya, you’re probably right.

 

[Satan]

#TeamDreamBig

 

[M88K]

Damn dude, you are going to be disappointed by the return.

Let us dream. Deep down we all know we aren't getting a return and we're going to walk him right to ufa, but let us have our brief ray of sunshine.

 

[Captain Awesome]

Let us dream. Deep down we all know we aren't getting a return and we're going to walk him right to ufa, but let us have our brief ray of sunshine.

Fair enough, I’ve basically already committed to not watching at all next season if the team lets these guys walk and Nill doesn’t get fired as a result. I’ve watched lots of bad stars hockey in my time, but I’m too old to tolerate that level of trash managing.

 

[Johno]

Fair enough, I’ve basically already committed to not watching at all next season if the team lets these guys walk and Nill doesn’t get fired as a result. I’ve watched lots of bad stars hockey in my time, but I’m too old to tolerate that level of trash managing.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I've given up mostly watching the games live anymore. 2-3am starting times are less than ideal, especially when they aren't always showing up or just keep hitting their heads against the wall with the same plans year in, year out.

 

[LT]

None of us thought Brendan Morrow would return what he did at the time. Who knows.

 

[BG44]

None of us thought Brendan Morrow would return what he did at the time. Who knows.

Man ... I remember having a low-key panic attack when that trade was breaking. I was so excited I just remember being a little out of breath. Also shows to not get too enamored with a prospect though ... lol. To be fair though, we still aren't talking about a guy that was a roster player in a Top 6/Top 4 role. I think that's fair to say it's fun to think about but delusional.

#Necas

You're right about prospects that might be available though. Definitely can get shocked about who a team might actually be willing to include that's not on their roster, and I think Joe Morrow definitely was that at that time.

 

[Johno]

None of us thought Brendan Morrow would return what he did at the time. Who knows.

I mean the 3rd we traded along with Brendan turned out to be Jake Guentzel, so there's that

 

[LT]

Man ... I remember having a low-key panic attack when that trade was breaking. I was so excited I just remember being a little out of breath. Also shows to not get too enamored with a prospect though ... lol. To be fair though, we still aren't talking about a guy that was a roster player in a Top 6/Top 4 role. I think that's fair to say it's fun to think about but delusional.

#Necas

You're right about prospects that might be available though. Definitely can get shocked about who a team might actually be willing to include that's not on their roster, and I think Joe Morrow definitely was that at that time.

I don't think Necas is going to happen. I think we're going to see something more like Jordan Staal's trade from PIT to CAR return at absolute best.

 

[BG44]

I don't think Necas is going to happen. I think we're going to see something more like Jordan Staal's trade from PIT to CAR return at absolute best.

That'd be great though, no? I mean that type of package would be huge.

8th overall, Brandon Sutter, and Brian Dumoulin is basically what they've reported Dallas is asking for: 3 key pieces. I think something comparable to that would actually be a huge win for Dallas. Pittsburgh got a Top 10 pick, a 23 year old roster player that was quality, and a 21 year old defender coming off an excellent career with Boston College.

I'd be very stocked for something like that. From that Athletic article, if you replace Fast with a 1st, I think you have a similar package. It's not quite as good though: 2023rd 1st, Suzuki, and Koivunen. I still think Morrow would be a worthy target though as well.

 

[Satan]

Necas baby

 

[BG44]

That's basically why I just want to hurry up and see Chychrun end up in Florida. I'm hoping it'll twist Carolina into stepping up and making a splash too. That or Toronto and Boston causing a bit of a bidding war. Dallas needs multiple serious suitors who are motivated to make this a great return.

 

[LT]

That'd be great though, no? I mean that type of package would be huge.

8th overall, Brandon Sutter, and Brian Dumoulin is basically what they've reported Dallas is asking for: 3 key pieces. I think something comparable to that would actually be a huge win for Dallas. Pittsburgh got a Top 10 pick, a 23 year old roster player that was quality, and a 21 year old defender coming off an excellent career with Boston College.

I'd be very stocked for something like that. From that Athletic article, if you replace Fast with a 1st, I think you have a similar package. It's not quite as good though: 2023rd 1st, Suzuki, and Koivunen. I still think Morrow would be a worthy target though as well.

Oh I think it’d be fantastic too. Even something like Bear + Morrow + 1st would be fine with me.

 

[BG44]

Seems like this could potentially be relevant. Wheeler now has Morrow, Suzuki, Koivunen, and Gunler as the Canes Top 4 prospects. He said any of those 4 could have been #1. There are 5 total (the other being Drury) that have a chance to be impact players in the NHL.

I thought Morrow's immediate impact in the NCAA probably significantly raised his stock in the scouts' eyes and ultimately the team as well. I wonder if he's someone they wouldn't be willing to move now.

Wheeler’s 2022 NHL prospect pool rankings: No. 9 Carolina Hurricanes

 

[BG44]

Hey Starry, what did you think about Joey Keane when he played for London in 2018-19? He'll require waivers next year, while at the moment you'd think only 1 of DeAngelo or Bear would probably return if Carolina goes with Pesce, DeAngelo, and Bear again on the right side he could end up mostly a healthy scratch or a guy that gets placed on waivers. That could make him a guy Carolina would think about moving maybe as a 2nd tier prospect along with say one of their better forward prospects.

But the reality of his game is much smoother than the look of it, with elite skating ability, a physical presence, excellent transition value (both ways), and an overall toughness and confidence about him. His skating helps him escape trouble, he plays an aggressive style, and he’s a righty with pro athleticism. Those things should make him a useful No. 4-6 D who gives a group of six some uncommon elements.

Wheeler’s 2022 NHL prospect pool rankings: No. 9 Carolina Hurricanes

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

Not a Stars fan, but is there anyone in the system to replace Klingberg?

Not replacing the player himself but more like being able to take over his minutes and provide somewhat as what he's provided on the back end thus far.

Is there a fit for Tyson Barrie assuming Klingberg is traded to a contender at the TDL? This isn't to suggest they're being traded for each other.

 

[WhoahNow]

Not a Stars fan, but is there anyone in the system to replace Klingberg?

Not replacing the player himself but more like being able to take over his minutes and provide somewhat as what he's provided on the back end thus far.

Is there a fit for Tyson Barrie assuming Klingberg is traded to a contender at the TDL? This isn't to suggest they're being traded for each other.

Thomas Harley has the potential to be that risky puck moving dman, but the Stars are loaded on the left hand side and need right handers on the blueline so he does fit a need that way.

 

[Zapp]

Necas baby

haha u misspelled Laine brother

 

[Satan]

haha u misspelled Laine brother

Fortnite

 

[MilesNewton]

Say a few prayers Nill doesn't go after Petry.

 

[BfantZ]

Not a Stars fan, but is there anyone in the system to replace Klingberg?

Not replacing the player himself but more like being able to take over his minutes and provide somewhat as what he's provided on the back end thus far.

Is there a fit for Tyson Barrie assuming Klingberg is traded to a contender at the TDL? This isn't to suggest they're being traded for each other.

I’ve said it before , I could see something happening with klingberg for Barrie . Obviously Edmonton would be adding . Not saying this should happen but I could see nill doing it .I am pretty sure Barrie is best friends with Benn so there would be at least one advocate on the team .

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

I’ve said it before , I could see something happening with klingberg for Barrie . Obviously Edmonton would be adding . Not saying this should happen but I could see nill doing it .I am pretty sure Barrie is best friends with Benn so there would be at least one advocate on the team .

Klingberg wouldn't be traded to Edmonton. He would be traded to a cup contender. Edmonton is NOT a contender by any means.

I was looking to see if Edmonton could move Barrie for a shutdown D in Hakaanpa. Barrie's cap hit is at 4.5M and he's got 2 years left after this season. Evan Bouchard made him redundant as Bouchard can play top pairing and the PP. I'm looking to see if it makes sense from the Stars perspective to trade Barrie for Hakaanpa.

So something like Barrie + Samorukov or Niemelainen for Hakaanpa.

Edmonton gets a shutdown D and Stars get Klingberg's replacement and a younger shutdown D. Both Samorukov and Nemo should be NHL ready next season. They could step in now but they'd need to adjust at the NHL level.

 

[M88K]

Klingberg wouldn't be traded to Edmonton. He would be traded to a cup contender. Edmonton is NOT a contender by any means.

I was looking to see if Edmonton could move Barrie for a shutdown D in Hakaanpa. Barrie's cap hit is at 4.5M and he's got 2 years left after this season. Evan Bouchard made him redundant as Bouchard can play top pairing and the PP. I'm looking to see if it makes sense from the Stars perspective to trade Barrie for Hakaanpa.

So something like Barrie + Samorukov or Niemelainen for Hakaanpa.

Edmonton gets a shutdown D and Stars get Klingberg's replacement and a younger shutdown D. Both Samorukov and Nemo should be NHL ready next season. They could step in now but they'd need to adjust at the NHL level.

Klingberg is getting traded to the highest bidder regardless of the team's status. He has no means by which to force a trade to teams of a specific caliber because he has no Nmc or NTc, other than saying he won't sign with anyone but a contender but that is all he can do.

Assuming he gets traded of course

 

[Johno]

Klingberg wouldn't be traded to Edmonton. He would be traded to a cup contender. Edmonton is NOT a contender by any means.

I was looking to see if Edmonton could move Barrie for a shutdown D in Hakaanpa. Barrie's cap hit is at 4.5M and he's got 2 years left after this season. Evan Bouchard made him redundant as Bouchard can play top pairing and the PP. I'm looking to see if it makes sense from the Stars perspective to trade Barrie for Hakaanpa.

So something like Barrie + Samorukov or Niemelainen for Hakaanpa.

Edmonton gets a shutdown D and Stars get Klingberg's replacement and a younger shutdown D. Both Samorukov and Nemo should be NHL ready next season. They could step in now but they'd need to adjust at the NHL level.

No to trading Hakanpaa.