BigMac1212
I feel...alone.
The "Tragic Number" has hit zero. There will be no Whiteout in Glendale for 2018. Consider this the "unofficial" premature off-season speculation thread. What should the Desert Dogs do to make the 2018-19 season better?
Sign OEL, Raanta. Win a lottery. Trade for top 2 C depth. Work with kids on training (make sure it's not all about bulking up). get Dylan Strome in figure skating (this will help with his power skating coach / I go back to a tv show they did where they paired ex hockey players with figure skaters on CBC and some interviews I caught after and they all said to a man that they couldn't believe how learning their edges improved their skating). Get Domi a shooting coach if he isn't moved to address C depth.The "Tragic Number" has hit zero. There will be no Whiteout in Glendale for 2018. Consider this the "unofficial" premature off-season speculation thread. What should the Desert Dogs do to make the 2018-19 season better?
If you’re trading for a top two C, where does Strome fit? Stepan cost a fortune to acquire. Not sure I have any appetite for paying those prices again, just so we can mothball a now figure skating Strome in the AHL until he demands a trade between double axels.Sign OEL, Raanta. Win a lottery. Trade for top 2 C depth. Work with kids on training (make sure it's not all about bulking up). get Dylan Strome in figure skating (this will help with his power skating coach / I go back to a tv show they did where they paired ex hockey players with figure skaters on CBC and some interviews I caught after and they all said to a man that they couldn't believe how learning their edges improved their skating). Get Domi a shooting coach if he isn't moved to address C depth.
Gives you options on how you roll him in. If it's easier to start him on the wing then u can do so. Truthfully the better question is what if Dvorak is ready to be that 2C next year. My viewpoint is you can't bank on Strome being that guy. If you do and he's not we have another wasted year and no shot at the playoffs if someone goes down for any extended period. The bandaid of using Domi at C this year was a prime example on why we need to strengthen this position.If you’re trading for a top two C, where does Strome fit? Stepan cost a fortune to acquire. Not sure I have any appetite for paying those prices again, just so we can mothball a now figure skating Strome in the AHL until he demands a trade between double axels.
Sign Raanta, extend OEL, keep the top 5 D core together. This will give us stability on the back end. As for a C, we need to pick up somebody better then Richardson. It would be great to grab an RNH, but I think that level player will be expensive. We would have to give up a Domi/Perlini or Fischer as part of a package maybe more to get a good C. Do we do that or hope DVO/Strome improve?
I actually think we keep most of the same roster and wait for our youth to improve outside of picking up a decent C. We get stability and improvement from within. All the changes last year hurt our continuity.
I agree the C problem needs addressed. Either pick up a Zack Smith style versatile bottom six C (kicking a field goal followed by an onside kick) or pick up a real upgrade but dump Strome in the process (Hail Mary fourth and goal).Gives you options on how you roll him in. If it's easier to start him on the wing then u can do so. Truthfully the better question is what if Dvorak is ready to be that 2C next year. My viewpoint is you can't bank on Strome being that guy. If you do and he's not we have another wasted year and no shot at the playoffs if someone goes down for any extended period. The bandaid of using Domi at C this year was a prime example on why we need to strengthen this position.
I agree. I just read an article about the Red Wings and Holland and how he preached that a rebuild takes patience and you build thru the draft. I know why we traded for Stepan, but losing that pick I believe will come back and haunt us for years.Sign Raanta, extend OEL, keep the top 5 D core together. This will give us stability on the back end. As for a C, we need to pick up somebody better then Richardson. It would be great to grab an RNH, but I think that level player will be expensive. We would have to give up a Domi/Perlini or Fischer as part of a package maybe more to get a good C. Do we do that or hope DVO/Strome improve?
I actually think we keep most of the same roster and wait for our youth to improve outside of picking up a decent C. We get stability and improvement from within. All the changes last year hurt our continuity.
If it was a stronger draft I would agree. There was no clear cut player at 7 though that is going to emerge as an impact player. Good players yes. Potentially as good as Stepan. What I saw was a list of 10 interchangeable names; many who were 2/3 tweeners. Given that we acquired a 1C (for us) and a 1G I understood the trade.I agree. I just read an article about the Red Wings and Holland and how he preached that a rebuild takes patience and you build thru the draft. I know why we traded for Stepan, but losing that pick I believe will come back and haunt us for years.
I agree the C problem needs addressed. Either pick up a Zack Smith style versatile bottom six C (kicking a field goal followed by an onside kick) or pick up a real upgrade but dump Strome in the process (Hail Mary fourth and goal).
Exactly. We traded our 7 OA last year for Stepan, and we are still in last place.This organization can't afford to do anything of significance. Either the youth improves, or it's more of the same.
The Rangers took us to the cleaners again on that trade. They already had a rebuild planed for their team before the season started. If we were contending I see the trade as perfect sense, but for a rebuilding team, we need picks, especially high end picks, and more the better. We always won't be picking top ten. If Chayka trades our first round pick this year that will show panic and stupidity in my view.If it was a stronger draft I would agree. There was no clear cut player at 7 though that is going to emerge as an impact player. Good players yes. Potentially as good as Stepan. What I saw was a list of 10 interchangeable names; many who were 2/3 tweeners. Given that we acquired a 1C (for us) and a 1G I understood the trade.
My biggest concern though is this years first given the strength of the D available and the status of our current blue line (assuming OEL extends). I see us doing a similar type Stepan move the lower our pick falls as we pass teams in final 10 games and lose lotteries.
I think we did very well in that deal. Depends if we extend Raanta though.The Rangers took us to the cleaners again on that trade. They already had a rebuild planed for their team before the season started. If we were contending I see the trade as perfect sense, but for a rebuilding team, we need picks, especially high end picks, and more the better. We always won't be picking top ten. If Chayka trades our first round pick this year that will show panic and stupidity in my view.
Daymond Langkow 2.0?I agree. I just read an article about the Red Wings and Holland and how he preached that a rebuild takes patience and you build thru the draft. I know why we traded for Stepan, but losing that pick I believe will come back and haunt us for years.
Daymond Langkow 2.0?
Strome has low value, don't see us getting much for him, we have to ride him out now and hope. I think the 2C would be expensive, and I agree, we need a 3c Strome insurance. We might catch somebody looking to unload cap like the Oilers maybe with RNH. i think he is over paid at 6 mill. I would move Domi straight up for him. That type of move, we move a winger where we have depth and take on an over paid C to fill in at 2C/3C. We moved Murphy for Hammer last year, that type of move might be out there. If it isn't, we get a 3C cheap somewhere.Why would we give up Domi/Perlini/Fischer to pick up a 2C? That renders Strome pointless. If you want to trade for a 2C instead of a 3C, then Strome has to be part of the package going back.
The problem is Strome’s value is in the tank. Flip a coin on whether this is as low as it will ever go or whether it’s just going to get lower every single day until he’s a full blown bust.
We have two options to solve our C problem:
1. Trade secondary assets for a relatively cheap 3C as “Strome insurance”.
2. Trade Strome as part of a package as a full blow “Strome replacement/upgrade”.
I don’t think there’s a third option. You can’t do nothing and simply pencil Strome in again. That hasn’t worked out and we need to hedge our bets. You also can’t hang onto Strome and then trade a big pile of assets for a replacement. What’s the point of keeping Strome if you have Stepan, another Stepan level C, and Dvorak?
I suppose there is a thir, very convoluted “option”, which would be trade a big pile of assets for a Stepan level center in a Stepan like trade and then move Strome for a RD. That could work I suppose. A ton of stars would have to align.
Strome has low value, don't see us getting much for him, we have to ride him out now and hope. I think the 2C would be expensive, and I agree, we need a 3c Strome insurance. We might catch somebody looking to unload cap like the Oilers maybe with RNH. i think he is over paid at 6 mill. I would move Domi straight up for him. That type of move, we move a winger where we have depth and take on an over paid C to fill in at 2C/3C. We moved Murphy for Hammer last year, that type of move might be out there. If it isn't, we get a 3C cheap somewhere.
Domi has developed a mental issue regarding his shot. He’s like a pitcher who suddenly goes wild and can’t throw strikes anymore ala Rick Ankiel. He’s so sure that he’s going to blow a shot that he’s passing up great opportunities for illadvised passes. When there’s no pass, he’s squeezing his stick so damned hard when he does get a shot off that it’s high and wide every damn time. He needs a sports psychologist more than anything. Haha.