The 2024 TRADE DEADLINE Thread
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JediOrderPizza
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With all the smoke about Hanifin going to Tampa, I'd now like to focus my attention back to pillaging St. Louis for talent.
Buchnevich and Parayko are interesting names.
Buchnevich and Parayko are interesting names.
JohanFranzenstein
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Wings are in big on a number of pending Blues UFA.
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jkutswings
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I'd like Yzerman to strike from the shadows and land somebody not on the list and that nobody expected to be available. A bold move that helps the team both short and long term. And he's a guy with Michigan ties.
Zach Werenski, come on down. You've been snatched from "never coming to Detroit" status.
JediOrderPizza
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Yeah Hanifin felt dead once the wants to sign in Florida stuff came out.
Buchnevich is nice but sounds pricey.
Parayko would fit but also is turning 31 in May and will have six years left at a reasonable cap hit, a little good and bad.
Guentzel fits but no way we wanna give long term.
Vatrano would be ok at the Mantha price but he has term left so probably costs more.
Dumba I'd take if they could somehow wizard Holl in the trade. I'd also guess Holl's 10 team no trade list would include Arizona.
I thought Dumba made sense in the off-season before Ghost, Petry, and Holl joined up. But given the contract he got, and how he had to go to Arizona to get it, I'd have to think Yzerman just isn't interested in this guy's game.
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Wings have ~28 million in cap space for next season and Raymond\Seider are likely to eat up a combined 12-15 of it, leaving 13-16 million. If Yzerman can dump Holl that brings us up to 16.4-19.4. If they also trade Maatta and call up Ed, they are at 17.7-20.7. Parayko's 6.5 takes them down to 11.2-14.2 to sign Kane, Veleno, bring up Kasper, and sign two forwards and a defenseman. That's tight but doable. You could have a defense group of Walman-Seider, Chiarot-Parayko, Ed-Petry next year which would be manageable and Ed could slot into second pair as he improves. Parayko would probably be an awesome complement to Edvinsson.
I don't like Parayko's age but his contract is actually not terrible, and with rising cap it shouldn't be a detriment as time goes on. The issue with Parayko is STL is going to want a decent number of assets. Like 1st, 2nd, Wallinder, Berggren. Is it worth it?
Still doesn't address Larkin being gone for two weeks but Yzerman might see what the forward core can do. He could always acquire another forward and let Perron go in the offseason and cheap a little bit on the rest of the roster or just acquire a rental to cover C while Larkin is out.
JediOrderPizza
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Agreed, I think it's important to find a rock steady #2 RD that can give him the best chance to play those hard minutes. I know a lot of people see bringing in another defender as a detriment to Edvinsson's ice time, but I feel it's a bit of the opposite.
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It's only a detriment if we don't free up space. I see Holl and Maatta not being part of the team next year and Ghost will be gone via trade or FA. I would like to see a D group of Walman-Seider \ RHD-Chiarot \ Petry-Ed until Ed is ready to slot up. I figure ASP will come in around the time Petry leaves and cover his RHD slot.
Outside of Hanifin, no one on that list excites me.
I’m fine with just picking up a depth piece for something small and eventually losing in the 1st round. No one there really moves the needle enough to change that and make a difference IMO.
Rather hold onto assets and go big game hunting in the off season where teams will inevitably be looking at changes
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To stack up GR for their playoff run?
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Jason Zucker can play some C and would weaken a upcoming opponent for two games.
Pending UFA too, probably wouldn't cost a lot.
Pending UFA too, probably wouldn't cost a lot.
Holden Caufield
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Go and get John Carlson.
Perfect top 4 RHD with 2 more years left on his contract.
Creates a nice little bridge until our top RHD prospects are ready and he would be a world class veteran partner for Ed the next couple of years.
Perfect top 4 RHD with 2 more years left on his contract.
Creates a nice little bridge until our top RHD prospects are ready and he would be a world class veteran partner for Ed the next couple of years.
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I feel like the Wings will get Wennberg for something relatively small.
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If Detroit can pawn Holl off then it makes sense to pick up Dumba for a reasonable price. I want Hanifin like everyone else but it isn't going to happen.
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@Frk It late response to your comparison of a Larsson move to the Quincey trade. Definitely see where you're coming from, it's an idea that I'm definitely just chewing on than something I'm really gung-ho on. I think the two big differences from my view are 1) I think Larsson's the better player than Quincey, and 2) our prospect pool and trajectory is in a very different place now than it was in 2012. I won't rehash the late era Holland stuff, I know it's been done to death on this board, but I feel like we needed to either start strengthening the prospect pool organically or go all-out and give Datsyuk/Zetterberg a chance to win another, and we kinda tried and failed to split the baby there.
I'm not itching to move our 1st for a player on the wrong side of 30, I get that for a lot of people here that really rate futures that will be a nonstarter. That said, I would really like to see add more reliable second pairing RHD behind Seider for the next few years. Getting someone in for this playoff push would be great, but honestly for me the bigger priority is bringing in someone reliable to play with Edvinsson.
I guess I feel like if you got maybe two the three years of good second pairing play from Larsson, then maybe a year or two of reliable third pairing play (assuming he would be willing to re-sign as a UFA in '25, which is an if), I think that would probably be worth a mid/late 1st and a B prospect. On the other hand, maybe there's a cheaper way to fill that need this summer when the dust settles, so I get where people would prefer to either hold onto our 1st or move it for someone to round out or top six, etc.
I'm not itching to move our 1st for a player on the wrong side of 30, I get that for a lot of people here that really rate futures that will be a nonstarter. That said, I would really like to see add more reliable second pairing RHD behind Seider for the next few years. Getting someone in for this playoff push would be great, but honestly for me the bigger priority is bringing in someone reliable to play with Edvinsson.
I guess I feel like if you got maybe two the three years of good second pairing play from Larsson, then maybe a year or two of reliable third pairing play (assuming he would be willing to re-sign as a UFA in '25, which is an if), I think that would probably be worth a mid/late 1st and a B prospect. On the other hand, maybe there's a cheaper way to fill that need this summer when the dust settles, so I get where people would prefer to either hold onto our 1st or move it for someone to round out or top six, etc.
We're not getting Hanifin...let it go
Hopefully SY dosent mail it in because of Larkins injury..the team deserves a boost...
Hopefully SY dosent mail it in because of Larkins injury..the team deserves a boost...
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Yeah, I would be good with Parayko. Not a bad contract that will probably age just fine. A top 4 of Walman-Seider and Edvinsson-Parayko would be pretty rad. Parayko can also move down the lineup once Sandin-Pelikka is ready to go HAM on the NHL.
I think we're gonna see something massive happen, and right out of left field that isn't being talked about at all.
Realistically what do we have for assets that can be dealt? I doubt we deal any of the forward group, unless it's in part of a bigger piece coming in. Defense is a logjam currently and of Ghost, Holl, Matta, Chariot,Petry, Wallinder, Johansson are all exposed I would assume. Same on the goalie front does Yzerman try for an upgrade?
Realistically what do we have for assets that can be dealt? I doubt we deal any of the forward group, unless it's in part of a bigger piece coming in. Defense is a logjam currently and of Ghost, Holl, Matta, Chariot,Petry, Wallinder, Johansson are all exposed I would assume. Same on the goalie front does Yzerman try for an upgrade?
Hopefully none of these guys. We aren't ready to contend and these guys don't change that this year nor will their new contracts if we extend them. Move Holl, if you can get more than a 2nd for Ghost, do it. Set ourselves up for competing 2025-2030. I'd be fine with Parayko at the right price.
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Walman - Seider
Edvinsson - Parayko
Cleveland (the legend) - ASP
We are set lol
Edvinsson - Parayko
Cleveland (the legend) - ASP
We are set lol
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Brady is literally my favorite prospect because he's going to be the ultimate underdog. I just want 1 NHL game played in a Wings jersey and I'll buy that jersey. I know nothing about him , but it's a good hockey name so that means he will succeed.
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