seventieslord
Student Of The Game
Do you want Ryan on New Glasgow or rather go with a defender 70's?
Yeah, let's do Eric weinrich. 1200 games, 21 minutes a game, probably should have been taken long ago.
Also a great p.p.option at this level.
Eric Weinrich, D
- 6'1", 215 lbs
- Averaged 21.95 minutes a game for 1157 NHL games for teams with 1.00 GF/GA ratio
- top-3 in total TOI on team 9 times (1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
- top-3 in ES TOI on team 10 times (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3)
- 5 30+ point seasons
- career adjusted +60
- 34% career PP usage, 37% PK usage
- 10 games for team USA in two best-on-best tournaments
- 18 points in 60 games in 10 other senior international tournaments
Hockey Scouting Report 1991-92 said:Weinrich is a big player who is a finesse defenseman. He is a good skater, with lateral ability, but he needs to develop more strength in his skating to be more of a factor along the boards. He is very quick with his feet, but his balance is terrible. He will bump with a player 30 pounds lighter and he'll be the one to fall down. He needs to learn better technique. He has excellent passing skills and has a promising future as a point man once he starts to read plays better. his shot from the point is good - low, hard and accurate, and he gets it away fairly quickly. What Weinrich can't do yet (because of his lack of skating ability) is get into the offensive flow with any confidence. Weinrich doesn't do anything flashy. He needs to develop a more consistent game, but his future as a solid everyday defenseman doesn't seem far off, if he can raise his skating a notch.
The aerobic part of Weinrich's game is fine; he is in good shape and can skate all day. but he needs to work more on his lower body strength. He is not a fighter, but he does have hockey courage and he will go back at a player, he just won't initiate. Weinrich has fairly good hockey instincts. He is cool under fire and he has learned to take a more commanding role with the puck in his own zone. he rushes the puck well and is learning to do things more smoothly and easily. Weirich doesn't read plays well coming at him, however.
Weinrich is an introspective player who needs frequent reassurance from his coaches. He is gaining condence with experience and is becoming more vocal. he has leadership qualities that will start to emerge more and more in the next season.
Hockey Scouting Report 1992-93 said:Weinrich's skating improved slightly last year, but not to the point where he could be counted on as a puck-carrying threat. Weinrich has a nice stride and can accelerate quickly, but is not a well-balanced skater and needs to work on more lower-body conditioning. He does not get good power from his legs and needs that strength to help move men out of the slot area. Weinrich's finesse skills are very good, close to excellent. he is a solid passer and also has a good point shot. Weinrich knows when to rifle a shot and when to take a little edge off so that his shot can be tipped in. He has a tendency to get flustered under pressure, however, and had more problems on the point on the power play than you would expect a player of his talent level to show. His defensive play is inconsistent. Weinrich should continue to improve as an offensive contributor, although he will never be in the class of the elite scoring defensemen.
Weinrich does not always play to his size. he lacks meanness, which can be overlooked if he would make takeout checks, but his skating hasn't developed to the point where his checks eliminate an attacker... Weinrich plays a good game in his own zone, where his skating and passing skills come into play to facilitate getting the puck out quickly. he has some trouble reading plays coming at him fast, although he has improved in this area, especially at breaking up two-on-ones.
Confidence still plays a major role in Weinrich's game. he needs reassurance from his coaches. A sophomore season is often a telling one for a player who had a good rookie campaign, as Weinrich did. Although probably the Devils' best defenseman durin the third quarter of the season, he did not distinguish himself in the playoffs...
Hockey Almanac 1993-94 said:The Whalers paid dearly for Weinrich, and upon his broad shoulders they pinned their hopes for a revitalized, mobilized power play. He has a very hard shot from the point, and is considered a potentially outstanding offensive defenseman. From a skill point of view, he is the team's second-best backliner after Zarley Zalapski. Weinrich has excellent size and strength, and is disciplined enough to play a strong physical game without getting caught up in penalty-ridden rough stuff.
Weirich has been an underachiever, and he is quick to admit that his 1992-93 performance did not accurately represent his abilities. Consistency has been a problem. Some nights he is very good, carrying the puck and firing laser beams. other nights he is lethargic, and ends up riding the pine.
His dilemma is a real one. Should be forego his offensive potential to prioritize defensive play? The Whalers, after all, need all the defensive help they can get, averaging more than 4.5 goals against per night. Or should he do what comes naturally and take the risk of being caught out of position at times? In his defense, he has done a yeoman's job on defense, and has limited offensive forays to those obvious opportunities - that is, not forcing the issue and pressing for scoring chances that don't actually exist.
WILL - stay confident
CAN'T - do it alone
EXPECT - solid offense
DON'T EXPECT - much flash
Hockey Scouting Report 1993-94 said:Weinrich is a package of nice finesse skills, and he is reaching the stage in his career where he has to take the next step forward in his development and become a leader. Weinrich's skating is above average. He accelerates quickly and has good straightaway speed, but he doesn't have great balance for pivots or superior leg drive for power. He's worked to improve his skating but needs to get even better. He is strong on the puck, shooting and passing hard. Weinrich works on the point on the first PP unit and has a low, accurate shot that he gets away quickly. He joins the rush very well. He will not gamble down low but will sometimes sneak into the top of the circle for a one-timer. His offensive reads are much better than his defensive reads.
Weinrich has always played smaller than his size. It might be a case of too much Mr. nice Guy, since he has a very easy-going nature and little desire to crunch people. His lack of balance allows him to be tipped over by smaller players. More lower-body work will serve him well. On some nights, Weinrich will come out and do just as the coaches as physically, but he does not perform on a consistent level.
A message was sent to Weinrich when he was benched for a game after scoring a goal. The message is that the Whalers need him to shine in all three zones and not just in the offensive end. Weinrich needs more mental toughness to become a legitimate #1 or 2 defenseman, but he seems to be thriving on the challenge and improved steadily over the second half of last season.
Hockey Almanac 1994-95 said:Weinrich could be an excellent offensive defenseman, given the right set of circumstances. the Blackhawks get plenty of offense from Chris Chelios, but he plays such a physical game that his penalty time creates a need for a secondary player with similar abilities. Weinrich enjoyed a renaissance upon his arrival in Chicago last year and was on his way to one of his best seasons when he was knocked out for the year with a broken jaw in February.
Inconsistency has been Weinrich's worst enemy. Before arriving in Chicago, Weinrich was developing a strong reputation as an underachiever. The strict discipline of the Chicago system helped him gain confidence in his role and what was expected. Weinrich has always had the talent, he just hasn't been able to bring it all out. Now, it appears he is at the crossroads. Once he has recovered fully from the broken jaw, he has to follow up with another excellent year to prove to the Blackhawks that he is dedicated, and he is willing to do the hard work.
WILL - have a huge year soon
CAN'T - afford any more setbacks
EXPECT - excellent two-way play
DON'T EXPECT - a Norris trophy
Hockey Scouting Report 1994-95 said:Moving to Chicago meant a step forward in Weinrich's development, since he saw a majority of icetime as partner to Chris Chelios. When Weinrich has to carry the mail, he is a less useful player. When the pressure is off and he is playing with a superior defenseman, Weinrich's game comes through. He doesn't have to do anything fancy, just move the puck and move up into the play, and he can do this quite nicely... he is not sturdy on his feet... Weinrich is a good one-on-one defenseman, but he needs to take the body better down low in the crease area. He has always had a high conditioning level and can play a lot of minutes. He is not a soft player (a criticism that dogged him early in his career). Weinrich will fight. it's not in his nature, but he won't get pushed around and will stand up for his teammates. Lower body strength and balance continue to be a weakness... has fragile confidence and needs to play on a good team to play well. he needs a coach to both coddle and cuss him to get the maximum effort. Weinrich is not the kind of player who will make others better, but he is a complementary defenseman.
Hockey Scouting Report 1995-96 said:Being paired with Chris Chelios may be the best thing to ever happen to Weinrich...
Hockey Almanac 1995-96 said:Weinrich is a talented offensive defenseman... Weinrich provides plenty of finesse, which comes in handy if Chelios runs into penalty trouble... last year, he was back on top of his game... some of his past inconsistency could be blamed on playing for weak teams. In Chicago, he has been able to play some of the best hockey of his career because he is part of a strong system. As a role player he can have more of an impact than when he is expected to be a front-runner... nobody has ever questioned his talent, but Weinrich hasn't been able to emerge - until recently, that is. As the Hawks continue to remake themselves, players like Weinrich will play increasingly important roles.
WILL - play a big role
CAN'T - be ignored offensively
EXPECT - finesse play
DON'T EXPECT - Chris Chelios
Hockey Scouting Report 1996-97 said:Weinrich plays better with an offensive-minded partner. He is more useful when he is the support player who can move the puck up and move into the play...
Hockey Almanac 1996-97 said:Weinrich can do everything. He is a talented offensive defenseman, but he's also strong in his own end. The Hawks benefit greatly from his smart puckhandling and skating. He has a good shot from the point. He proved that he was a useful second-unit PP quarterback. Weinrich is well-trained and dedicated to winning... he has not been pressured into a leadership role, but his play speaks for itself... Weinrich doesn't have the personality that requires constant attention from his coaches. He's solid, consistent, and steady. He is one of the game's best all-around backliners, with the talent and toughness to make him the goods.
WILL - give two-way effort
CAN'T - overshadow Chelios
EXPECT - top skills
DON'T EXPECT - many PIM
Sports Forecaster 1996-97 said:Has slowed down offensively... a hard-working 5th or 6th defenseman.
Sports Forecaster 1997-98 said:Is playing as well as he ever was. Was fifth in assists and 3rd in +/- on team... a solid #3-4 defenseman. A low-maintenance player who quietly does his job. Tough to beat one-on-one. Showed a little more grit last season. A good skater who handles the puck well, he has a quick release and keeps his point shots low. Very well-conditioned. Doesn't have lower-body strength or balance. Not a force in front of his net... he has gotten stronger over the seasons...
Hockey Scouting Report 1997-98 said:Weinrich was probably Chicago's most consistent defenseman last season... he's in the shadow of Chelios and Suter, but Weinrich is a fine, underrated number three defenseman... trade rumours always seem to dog Weinrich, but he is well-regarded by Hawks and it would take a pretty good deal to pry him away. After seeming to settle into a comfort zone a year ago, he has taken on more responsibility and become a better player.
McKeen's Hockey Pool Yearbook 1999-2000 said:played quite well for the Habs... mobile with decent skills, he logged the most icetime on the club.
Hockey Scouting Report 1999-2000 said:A fine, underrated #3-4 defenseman who is perfectly spotted in his current role in Montreal... he jumps into the rush but needs to get his shots through from the point... Weinrich has reached an age where he needs to watch his minutes. When he starts averaging over 17 minutes a game, he starts to break down... his experience with Chelios in Chicago taught him to battle hard, and Weinrich has tried to bring that with him to Montreal... he provides some quiet leadership and is an inspiration, but at 33 might not have that much left in the tank.
McKeen's Hockey Pool yearbook 2000-01 said:has missed only eight games in four seasons... Weinrich is the type of player who goes unnoticed by fans, yet is always noticed by coaches. Steady and unspectacular. Excellent in the defensive zone and able to make the first pass. Certainly no offensive force, Weinrich will provide a lot of minutes and a lot of stability.
Hockey Scouting Report 2000-2001 said:This fine "Wein" gets better with age. Even though at this stage of his career he is best suited as a #3-4 defenseman, in Montreal, he serves as a top-2 and handles the icetime and responsibility with poise... his composure with the puck in all zones has improved with experience. he is an outstanding penalty killer and shot-blocker... held up well last season despite averaging more than 25 minutes per game. Although not a soft player, he is not mean, either... you have to wonder why both Columbus and Minnesota passed on him in the expansion draft, since he is the perfect kind of player to help younger defensemen along.
Sports Forecaster 2000-2001 said:Weinrich has arguably been the Habs' most consistent player the last two seasons. The veteran defender plays the most minutes, blocks the most shots and moves the puck from the blueline better than anyone else on the roster. Although miscast as a PP point man, he always gives an honest effort. In fact, he has become a true leader in Montreal.
McKeen's Hockey Pool Yearbook 2001-02 said:stepped up in Vladimir Malakhov's absence and delivered a solid two-way performance that saw him log the most icetime on the club... solid, aggressive rearguard isn't a great skater but uses his smarts and solid positioning to compensate... sudden blueline anchor is getting better with age...
Hockey Scouting Report 2001-2002 said:The Flyers will probably ask him to be a #3-4. it will be a stretch, but Weinrich will make the effort... this is the first time in a long time Weinrich has played with a solid playoff contender.
Sports Forecaster 2001-2002 said:Weinrich immediately provided Boston with valuable minutes from the back end - which had been missing since the departure of Ray Bourque the previous season. The veteran has improved his overall game with age. Weinrich is more consistent now than when he was 27... he still moves very well laterally and makes solid offensive contributions... will be a solid #3 rearquard and will be used in all situations.
Sports Forecaster 2002-2003 said:In his first season with the Flyers, Weinrich helped solidify the blueline. He was immediately paired with Kim Johnsson and the duo became Philly's most reliable tandem. Weinrich is intelligent from the back end and moves the puck out of the zone quickly and efficiently... while he has good NHL size, he uses more brains than brawn to get the job done... the Flyers will continue to reply heavily on Weinrich in all situations.
Hockey Scouting Report 2002-2003 said:an outstanding penalty killer and shot blocker...used to be pegged as a more offensive defenseman, but as he has matured, his finesse skills have become more valuable on the defensive side of the puck... an excellent team player in both performance and temperament, Weinrich proved to be one of the best free agent signings of 2001.
McKeen's Hockey Pool Yearbook 2002-2003 said:last summer's shrewdest investment... unexpectedly surfaced as the blueline anchor, leading the club with +27, although he was unusually error-prone in the playoffs... a steady, all-weather rearguard with good mobility, Weinrich plays a safe game, relying on his strong positional sense and efficient physical game, and provided the perfect climate for the emergence of Kim Johnsson...
Hockey Scouting Report 2003-2004 said:Has an efficient style that allows him to play a lot of minutes... strong on the puck... can still handle 2nd PP unit time... would make a valuable contribution to a team that is deep on defense and could use him ion the third defense pair... such a good team guy...
Sports Forecaster 2003-2004 said:Weinrich has few flaws in his game. Not a big point producer, he's nevertheless adept at making a clean first pass out of his zone. He won't check a player into the third row but always finishes them. Weinrich is also very positionally sound.
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