Prospect Info: The 2015 NHL Draft Thread VII

DiscoBall · May 1, 2015

Missionhockey said:
Why would Columbus trade their top 15 pick last year and this year's first rounder to move up two spots?

It was just a base...should have put we'd have to add.

GhostofKenKlee · May 1, 2015

The price to move up in the past is another 2nd. rounder plus the pick.

Hockey Sports Fan · May 1, 2015

GhostofKenKlee said:
I can't see either defender falling into their laps.

Buff-Eichel
Arizona-Strome
Toronto-Hanifin
Carolina-Provorov/Marmer
Devils-Provorov/Mamer
Flyers-Don't care..

There's a pretty good chance that Hanifin is the only defenseman taken in the first 7 or 8 picks. Teams are beginning to catch on that elite forwards are much harder to find outside the early first round, and they're drafting accordingly, like Colorado taking Mackinnon when Jones seemed to fit their organizational need more.

GhostofKenKlee · May 1, 2015

Hockey Sports Fan said:
There's a pretty good chance that Hanifin is the only defenseman taken in the first 7 or 8 picks. Teams are beginning to catch on that elite forwards are much harder to find outside the early first round, and they're drafting accordingly, like Colorado taking Mackinnon when Jones seemed to fit their organizational need more.

I don't know, Hanifin and Ivan are highly rated as well. I get that this is a deep draft. But alot of scouts are high on the Russian and Hanifin is projected to be a Niedermayer type. Until recently I've seen Ivan projected at 5 and Hanifin at 6.

Yeah, I think they regret that to a degree since they do have a large void on defense re: Avalanche.

Smitty426 · May 1, 2015

How would Devs fans think of:
Trading our 6 OA and a 2nd or similar (maybe a dman), add a third? for Draistal and Yak? If a decent dman were available at 6. Edm fans would gripe but is value there or close?

Thinking was, it quikens the retool, they get what they want without giving up RNH, Hall, Ebs and get D help.

they will want Larsson, we say no

Thoughts?

Devils Dominion · May 1, 2015

Smitty426 said:
How would Devs fans think of:
Trading our 6 OA and a 2nd or similar (maybe a dman), add a third? for Draistal and Yak? If a decent dman were available at 6. Edm fans would gripe but is value there or close?

Thinking was, it quikens the retool, they get what they want without giving up RNH, Hall, Ebs and get D help.

they will want Larsson, we say no

Thoughts?

Nope, let's draft at 6th

Unknown Caller · May 1, 2015

Devils Dominion said:
Nope, let's draft at 6th

6th overall and a 2nd for Yakupov and Draisaitl? I think I would do it.

MadDevil · May 1, 2015

Why would Edmonton trade two young forwards for picks/prospects?

Emperoreddy · May 1, 2015

MadDevil said:
Why would Edmonton trade two young forwards for picks/prospects?

They wouldn't. I could see if they are giving up on yak but still I don't see it.

MichaelJ · May 1, 2015

Missionhockey said:
Why would Columbus trade their top 15 pick last year and this year's first rounder to move up two spots?

They wouldn't, but it's a question of the player available, not the number of spots.

The question is whether or not Hanifin is worth Zacha and a prospect.

Marshal Rochambeau · May 1, 2015

MichaelJ said:
They wouldn't, but it's a question of the player available, not the number of spots.

The question is whether or not Hanifin is worth Zacha and a prospect.

True.

Devils Dominion · May 1, 2015

Unknown Caller said:
6th overall and a 2nd for Yakupov and Draisaitl? I think I would do it.

I'm not fond of Yak.

Smitty426 · May 2, 2015

MichaelJ said:
They wouldn't, but it's a question of the player available, not the number of spots.

The question is whether or not Hanifin is worth Zacha and a prospect.

Yes my original post was with hanifin available

VoidCreature · May 2, 2015

New video of Zacha that's been put together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C87lxNVhos

The song is eh, but there's some footage in there I hadn't seen before.

Very nice.

Marshal Rochambeau · May 2, 2015

VoidCreature said:
New video of Zacha that's been put together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C87lxNVhos

The song is eh, but there's some footage in there I hadn't seen before.

Very nice.

JimEIV · May 2, 2015

VoidCreature said:
New video of Zacha that's been put together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C87lxNVhos

The song is eh, but there's some footage in there I hadn't seen before.

Very nice.

A lot of that video was nontransferable skill in my opinion.

DiscoBall · May 2, 2015

JimEIV said:
A lot of that video was nontransferable skill in my opinion.

Pretty much everything written about his performance at the U-18's was gushing with praise.

Alex NJD · May 2, 2015

Out of Marner, Barzal, Zacha, Rantanen, and Crouse how NHL ready are these guys?

Devil X · May 2, 2015

JimEIV said:
A lot of that video was nontransferable skill in my opinion.

I dunno i think his shot overall is pretty transferable. As well as his speed. Im sure NHL Dman wont let him blow past as easy but still, you can see he has speed and he has the hands to make moves at top speed so lets not get crazy and say nothing is transferable.

But i do think we need to relax a little about highlight videos. I believe one of the complaints about Zacha is when he isnt into the game he is just lost and not in the right place. Also heard his hockey IQ isnt as high as some of the others.

But he does have that one-timer down from the dot it looks like.

theoptimist · May 2, 2015

Zacha should be our pick, even if Marner is available, imo.

Frightening, because I see a bit of Kopitar in his game.

Billdo · May 2, 2015

optimist34 said:
Zacha should be our pick, even if Marner is available, imo.

Frightening, because I see a bit of Kopitar in his game.

No...

thethinglonger · May 2, 2015

Devil X said:
I dunno i think his shot overall is pretty transferable. As well as his speed. Im sure NHL Dman wont let him blow past as easy but still, you can see he has speed and he has the hands to make moves at top speed so lets not get crazy and say nothing is transferable.

But i do think we need to relax a little about highlight videos. I believe one of the complaints about Zacha is when he isnt into the game he is just lost and not in the right place. Also heard his hockey IQ isnt as high as some of the others.

But he does have that one-timer down from the dot it looks like.

His shot is definitely NHL-ready.

Building off what you said, my concern from viewings of him is his play when he doesn't have the puck, which you can't see in highlight videos. I'm not looking for a Sam Reinhart type support player (although that would be incredible), I'm just looking for a little more support from him.

MichaelJ · May 2, 2015

optimist34 said:
Zacha should be our pick, even if Marner is available, imo.

Frightening, because I see a bit of Kopitar in his game.

Kopitar...maybe.

I don't know about taking him over Marner though.

Emperoreddy · May 2, 2015

optimist34 said:
Zacha should be our pick, even if Marner is available, imo.

Frightening, because I see a bit of Kopitar in his game.

Absolutely not. Marner has to be ours if he is available at 6.

GhostofKenKlee · May 2, 2015

If Hanifin really does make it to six because some have the theory is harder to get forwards, LL would be foolish not to take him. But I doubt he or Ivan go past the Flyers.

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