The 2013 Double-A Draft Thread

[Rob Scuderi]

Tommy Williams, RW

Toni Lydman, D

 

[ted2019]

Andre Savard Center

Stats:
Games: 790
Goals: 211
Assists: 271
Pts: 482
Plus/Minus: 114
SHG: 10
GWG: 25

The 1973 NHL Amateur Draft was touted as one of the most rich in talent since its creation. Denis Potvin went first overall to the Islanders, followed by such greats as Lanny McDonald, Bob Gainey, and Rick Middleton. With the sixth pick overall, the Boston Bruins selected Andre Savard from the Quebec Remparts of the QMJHL.
Savard lead the league in the 1972-73 season with 151 points in 56 games as well as all players in the playoffs with 24 assists and 42 assists in only 15 playoff games. After being drafted, he quickly made the jump to the NHL the next season with the Bruins. He joined a very talented team that boasted the top four scorers in the NHL in 1973-74: Phil Esposito, Bobby Orr, Ken Hodge, and Wayne Cashman.

After only three seasons in Boston, Savard signed as a free agent with the Buffalo Sabres in 1976. He spent seven seasons in Buffalo collecting a career high in goals, assists, and points for the 1980-81 campaign with 31, 43, and 74 respectfully in 79 games played. Savard was traded to the Quebec Nordiques in 1983 where he stayed until the end of his playing career in 1985 when he retired because of a serious knee injury.

He returned to Quebec's AHL affiliate team the Fredericton Express as its general manager and coach. He made the return to the NHL as the Nordiques' head coach for the 1987-88 season. It was a short-lived stay as he was let go after only 24 games and a losing record.

Savard joined the Montreal Canadiens in July 2000 as the director of hockey personnel and was promoted to the position of general manager in November of the same year.



Willy Lindstrom RW

WHA Stats:
Games: 316
Goals: 123
Assists: 138
Pts: 261
3X WHA Champions (1976,1978,1979 Winnipeg Jets)
1976-77 44 Goals (8th)

NHL Stats:
Games: 582
Goals: 161
Assists: 162
Pts: 323
2X Stanley Cup Champion (1984 & 1985 Edmonton Oilers)

Right-winger Willy Lindstrom was an exciting combination of speed and scoring during his eight years in the NHL. He recorded five 20-goal seasons and was very dangerous on the power play. The talented forward was also respected for turning his game up a notch in the post-season.
Born in Grunnis, Sweden, "The Wisp" excelled for five years with Vastra Frolunda. He also spent parts of two seasons on the national team and played at the World Championshios in 1974 and 1975. Lindstrom signed as a free agent with the WHA's Winnipeg Jets in July 1975 and was a top goal scorer for four seasons. In 1976, he was a reserve on Team Sweden at the inaugural Canada Cup.

The clever forward remained on the Jets when they joined the NHL in 1979-80. He recorded four consecutive 20-goal seasons as the young club was one of the fastest in the league. In March 1983, Lindstrom was traded to the Edmonton Oilers for scrappy centre Laurie Boschman. He was a role player on his new squad but recorded 22 goals in 1983-84 and helped the club win two consecutive Stanley Cups in 1984 and 1985.

In October 1985, he was picked up on waivers by the Pittsburgh Penguins and scored 24 goals over two seasons. After sitting out the 1987-88 season, he played two years with Brynas IF Gavle of Sweden before announcing his retirement.

 

[Hobnobs]

Ilkka Sinisalo, LW
Willie Huber, D

 

[ted2019]

A lot of players that I had on My radar are getting drafted today.

 

[seventieslord]

Savard? NO WAY! I was coming in here to pick him right now.

I'll take a couple of Viktors: Polupanov and Golikov.

 

[ted2019]

Savard? NO WAY! I was coming in here to pick him right now.

I'll take a couple of Viktors: Polupanov and Golikov.

I somehow missed Golikov on My list of Russians for this draft.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Gerry Meehan C
Oops D

 

[ResilientBeast]

Should I consider Hagman a center or winger?

Hockey reference says center, everywhere else just says forward.

Any input is appreciated

 

[seventieslord]

I somehow missed Golikov on My list of Russians for this draft.

oh, and by the way, I meant Vladimir Golikov.

 

[Sanf]

Should I consider Hagman a center or winger?

Hockey reference says center, everywhere else just says forward.

Any input is appreciated

He was center. I have never heard/seen that he played as a winger. You get most out of his playmaking skills as center.

edit Oh and I was preparing to participate this draft and if I remember correct and understand the rules right Virta was already drafted.

 

[VanIslander]

Ironmen select Curt Giles, the spitfire rearguard renowned for his hipcheck and solid defensive play. The NCAA all-star captain and holder of multiple offensive records in college joined the Minnesota North Stars in 1979 and received the Minnesota MVP award in 1981, the year they first went to the Stanley Cup Finals. "Pengy" went on to twice more be team MVP, five times honored as the team's best defenseman in the eighties, becoming captain from 1988 through the 1991 Stanley Cup Finals run. Injuries hampered him late in his career, but the blueliner was healthy enough to play defense and score a goal in helping Team Canada earn silver in the 1992 Olympics to round out a solid career after 895 NHL games and 103 NHL playoff games.

short and stout he used to destroy guys with a hip/butt check. He'd send guys flying azz over tea kettle; like running into a fire hydrant

Curt Giles was a steady defenceman who could pass the puck up ice effectively... showed surprising poise for a rookie while helping the team reach the semifinals. Along the way the young Stars defeated the Montreal Canadiens in the quarterfinals to end their four-Cup dynasty... In 1991 his veteran savvy helped Minnesota reach the finals for the second time... Giles spent the 1991-92 season with the Canadian national team and scored a goal as the team won the silver medal at the Albertville Olympics.

 

[VanIslander]

Ironmen select center Jiri Novak, who was the longtime pivot of the Martinec and B. Stastny line, through six world championships between 1973-1979, including two golds at the height of Czechoslovakian hockey, representing his country in the 1976 Canada Cup as well as both 1976 and 1980 Olympics. He scored 76 goals in 160 matches on the national team. Back home he had scored 255 goals and won three league championships.

A very constructive player with great technique who delivered crisp passes on the blade. Also a very strong two-way player.

http://www.azhockey.com/No.htm

 

[BubbaBoot]

oh, and by the way, I meant Vladimir Golikov.

Damn you seventies, he was my next CTR in tomorrow's pick….that's twice you've scooped me already….

 

[Hedberg]

The Muskies select D Nikolai Makarov

1981 World Championship Gold Medal
1982-83 SM-liiga Best Defenseman

113 G, 70 A, 183 Soviet GP

seventieslord:

Makarov was a longtime Soviet league blueliner who didn't appear to stand for much more than longevity. But he blossomed offensively in the 1977 and 1978 seasons, in which he was 1st and 2nd in Soviet league defensemen scoring. He was not a postseason all-star but then there was only one team named in those years. He was 9th in MVP voting in 1978, and in both 1978 and 1979 he was named to the "top 30 players", whatever that means.

He was never on the national team, aside from a game in 1981. With that said, the national team mainstays of his generation are all taken and he appears to be among the "next best", especially offensively.

Makarov posted some gawdy totals in the 1980 and 1981 seasons that would have made him 1st and 2nd in Soviet league defensemen scoring a couple more times, but one piece of evidence that he played forward those seasons is enough for me considering he was 34 and the numbers would be abnormal otherwise. Eurohockey.net has two entries for Makarov, one of which is a forward from 1980-1982 with Traktor. Every other source calls Makarov purely a defenseman, but I don't buy it and don't want to try to pull one over on you guys, either.

Makarov went to the Finnish league for the 1983 season and was named the league's top defenseman at 35, leading the league in blueliner scoring, edging 30-year old Pekka Rautakallio, an ATDer who had 68 points in the NHL the season before. The following season Rautakallio outscored Makarov by just 2 points. All indications are that from 1977 to 1984 at least, Makarov had the capability to be a middle of the road offensive specialist at the NHL level, and that was at age 29-36. Prior to that he stuck around despite having average scoring stats, indicating decent all-around ability.

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LW Adam Brown

5'9, 175 lbs
Shoots Left

9th (45-46) in Goals
6th (46-47) in Assists
1943 Stanley Cup Champion

104 G, 113 A, 217 Pts in 391 NHL GP

Legends of Hockey:

Adam Brown was a reliable goal scorer who could stand his ground in front of the net and win battles for the puck along the boards

Players: The Ultimate A-Z Guide of Everyone Who has Ever Played in the NHL:

Adam Brown “made the Red Wings immediately due to his superb skating and unwillingness to back down from rough play”.

Gordie Howe

I was playing on a Detroit Red Wings' line with Billy Taylor and Adam Brown (You probably don't remember Adam Brown. He's dead now, but he was a good hockey player and a real hustler).

The Montreal Gazette, Nov 17, 1951 - Dink Carroll

Kenny Reardon insists that Adam Brown hits as hard a bodycheck as any forward in the NHL

Ottawa Citizens, Jan 29, 1946

Personally I would not wager a plugged Hun nickel that the Bentley brothers, Sylvanus Apps, Adam Brown, or Maurice Richard could skate faster - if as fast - as could Cyclone Taylor...

 

[VanIslander]

The Muskies select D Nikolai Makarov...

There's a question mark worthy of starting at this level and maybe as extra skater at the AAA level. He doesn't have much experience on the Soviet national team but that is due to off-ice considerations (his hometown Cheliabinsk was off the hockey radar and it wasn't until Tikhonov convinced the authorities to allow younger brother Sergei to go to Moscow that the door began to open for Nikolai).

Here's some interesting bio info:

Nikolai, the oldest, Juri, the second and Sergei always played on the floor of their house in the "Makarov Championship". Each of the boys symbolised a Moscow hockey team. While Juri pretended to be Spartak, Nikolai was Dynamo, and Sergei played for the Red Army team in his fantasy. Because of his connection to this sport through his brothers, Sergei used every free minute after school to play on the street and on frozen ponds. with his brother Nikolai

His family and especially his brother Nikolai, who only began playing hockey at the age of ten, were very important for Sergei Makarov. At the age of five, Sergei used to skate behind his brother, trying to be faster than him. From that time Sergei developed great ambition and stubornness to be the best. This attitude and his habit of speaking his mind were sometimes a problem for him, later in his career. He always played with older and stronger kids and so he had to work on his speed, to avoid getting hit.

All of the three Makarov sons passed their examinations in an institute for sports and sciences. Sergei began playing for the team of his father's company, while Nikolai was discovered by the Red Army team and sent to Chebarkul, a kind of Red Army farm team. Nikolai's move was also very important for Sergei. He often visited Nikolai with his family and while watching him play he saw a young guy playing for Cherbakul who changed his life forever. His eyes always kept following one certain player who was to become the best winger ever produced by the Soviet hockey system and the idol of Sergei Makarov - Valery Kharlamov! Makarovs idol Valery Kharlamov

When Nikolai went back to Cheliabinsk between games, he always had to show Sergei Kharlamov's moves and his style of playing. It was not always easy for Nikolai, because Kharlamov made some moves that only he was able to do. So Sergei used every free minute to try to play like his idol, always on the ice, repeating the moves his brother had shown him. One of the biggest moments in Sergei's life was, when Valery Kharlamov visited the Makarovs in their house in Cheliabinsk for dinner. This was probably the time then Sergei decided to do everything to finally become a hockey player. The first step was to join the local team, Traktor Cheliabinsk.

http://www2.math.uu.se/~gaidash/Hockey/Text/makarov.html

 

[chaosrevolver]

Picks will be in tonight. Travelling home at the moment.

 

[BubbaBoot]

Gerry Meehan C
Hannu Virta D

I picked Virta in the MLD

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=74532699&postcount=211

 

[seventieslord]

Makarov was my top choice for an offensive guy. His sihr bio clearly indicates his lack of time on the national team was not due to ability or value.

That said, his domestic recognition still kinda sucks.

He could have replaced a couple of those schmucks taken as offensive specialists last draft.

 

[ResilientBeast]

I picked Virta in the MLD

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=74532699&postcount=211

Command F failed me, thanks

 

[ResilientBeast]

Alright repicking,

Carey Wilson C

 

[chaosrevolver]

Eh..I honestly can't keep up with this pace and haven't made any picks yet, so feel free to just drop me from the list. I'll do the ATD instead since it will just be the start of a new semester and the workload isn't as horrific.

 

[jkrx]

If the GMs want 10 teams I can help out and take over chaos team in a pinch.

 

[VanIslander]

If the GMs want 10 teams I can help out and take over chaos team in a pinch.

A pinch hitter is at the plate!

 

[tony d]

Welcome aboard, jkrx, good to have ya back.

Erie selects with their Day 4 picks

Centre Derek Roy

Legends Of Hockey

Roy appeared in 70 games for Buffalo in 2005-06, becoming a regular in the line-up, he finished the year with 18 goals, 28 assists for 46 points. After another productive season in the NHL, Roy led the team in scoring in 2007-08 with a career high 32 goals, 49 assists for 81 points.

Defenseman Norm Maciver

Legends Of Hockey:

Small by modern standards, Maciver was unable to play a fiercely physical game, so he used his quickness, puckhandling skills, and instincts to set himself apart from his peers.

 

[BubbaBoot]

The B.A.A. Unicorns select:
center Jim McFadden
right defense Abbie Newell