Value of: Thatcher Demko's next contract

[The Iron Goalie]

Will probably have to bridge him, due to aforementioned cap issues, so I'd expect a 2-3 year deal in the 3.5-4 million range.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Here's a list of contracts RFA starting goalies coming off of a bridge (sans Binnington) signed during this CBA. I expect he ends up around 5 AAV × 4 years.

Name	Age	AAV	Years	Cap%
Vasilevskiy	25	9.5	8	11.66
Rask	26	7	8	10.89
Price	24	6.5	5	10.83
Bobrovsky	26	7.45	4	10.17
Varlamov	25	5.9	5	9.18
Holtby	25	6.1	5	8.54
Gibson	25	6.4	8	8.05
Hellebuyck	25	6.166	6	7.76
Murray	26	6.25	4	7.67
Andersen	26	5	5	7.00
Schneider	26	4	3	6.67
Allen	25	4.35	4	5.96
Bernier	26	4.15	2	5.81
Binnington	26	4.4	2	5.40

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[ElPrimeTime]

Pay the man... he's the main reason you're winning any games right now.

 

[BCNate]

I'd be really happy with either a 3yr x 4 bridge deal, or 6x6 on the longer end. I think 3x 7 bridge deals will be pretty close to what EP and Hughes get.

 

[Luck 6]

Isn’t demko one of the best goalie this season and you think he’ll sign for less than 5.5?

Yes, I do actually, for a couple of reasons:

1) Demko has had one good season as a starter, there is definitely risk for the team to sign him longterm. The alternative would be a 1 year deal, because the team will not go two years. I wouldn't think Demko would want a 1 year deal, if his play regresses at all in his sophomore year he will lower his chances on a long term more lucrative deal. In this case by taking 4.9mil at 5 years he guarantees himself 24.5 million on earnings, it's the smart choice for a goalie in his situation. But hey, I'd be fine with a 1 year deal as well, but that deal will probably only be worth 4.9mil or so anyways as a RFA. Then, the following offseason if he plays well, he may get in the 5.5mil range. He's taking on a decent amount of risk for not much more over the same time span.

2) Demko has two RFA years left that we should be able to buy for cheap. If we take those two years at 4mil, and the following three years at 6mil, that averages out at 5.33mil per season. It isn't unreasonable to assume Demko could leave a few dollars on the table in the form of a hometown discount to assist a team on the rise, it's common for young players to do that if they want to build a winning team. Plus, Demko knows what our cap situation is, he also knows he has to re-sign in the same offseason as Pettersson and Hughes, I think he will be somewhat mentally prepared to take a bit less all things considered.

I could be wrong, just my best guess.

 

[JAK]

Dim Jim has left himself zero wiggle room living “day by day” as he so eloquently put it. 23ish Million to sign Petey, Quinn & Demko. It’s gonna take some real skill to fit them all in not to mention fill other spots.

There are plenty of wiggle rooms with buyouts, check the buyout calculators on capfriendly. Just have to be creative

 

[Luck 6]

Dim Jim has left himself zero wiggle room living “day by day” as he so eloquently put it. 23ish Million to sign Petey, Quinn & Demko. It’s gonna take some real skill to fit them all in not to mention fill other spots.

It isn't really as bad as you think, even Benning should be able to figure this one out:

Miller	5.25	Pettersson	7	Boeser	5.88
Hoglander	0.89	Horvat	5.5	Virtanen	2.55
Motte	1.2			Podkolzin	0.9
Roussel	3	Beagle	3	MacEwan	0.88
		Gaudette	0.75
Edler	4	Myers	6
Hughes	7	Schmidt	5.95
Juolevi	1.2
Rathbone	0.93
Demko	4.9
Luongo	3.03	Cap Penalty
Ferland	0	LTIR
Eriksson	4	Buyout
Holtby	0.5	Buyout
Total Cap		74.31	Mil
Cap Space		7.19	Mil

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

7.19mil to sign a depth winger, back up goalie, bottom pairing defenseman, and 3rd line center. It can be done. It isn't an elite roster, but as long as we're smart and continue building for the year after we'll be perfectly fine.

 

[flying v 604]

VAN has $25.7M in cap space with EP/Hughes needing new deals, likely $8M each. Doubt he'll earn more than Holtby - $4.3M. I believe they want to leave some cap space and offer a Bridge deal - $4m @ 2 years.

Including Ferland LTIR it shows them having over 30+ million in cap.
Plus you gotta figure that LE gets bought out which I believe adds another 4+. When you look at the ED draft the best prospect available is Kole Lind, I think Seattle can quite easily be convinced to take AR, Beagle or Holtby. All 3 are good locker-room vets on one year deals and they have to reach the cap floor.

As for Demko, it depends on what other cap gets moved but 5×4 sounds about right. Buys 2 UFA years while still allowing him to get another big deal.

 

[GOilers88]

VAN has $25.7M in cap space with EP/Hughes needing new deals, likely $8M each. Doubt he'll earn more than Holtby - $4.3M. I believe they want to leave some cap space and offer a Bridge deal - $4m @ 2 years.

I think EP and Hughes both getting 8 million off their ELC's is batshit crazy, and I'm a fan of both.

 

[flying v 604]

Yes, I do actually, for a couple of reasons:

1) Demko has had one good season as a starter, there is definitely risk for the team to sign him longterm. The alternative would be a 1 year deal, because the team will not go two years. I wouldn't think Demko would want a 1 year deal, if his play regresses at all in his sophomore year he will lower his chances on a long term more lucrative deal. In this case by taking 4.9mil at 5 years he guarantees himself 24.5 million on earnings, it's the smart choice for a goalie in his situation. But hey, I'd be fine with a 1 year deal as well, but that deal will probably only be worth 4.9mil or so anyways as a RFA. Then, the following offseason if he plays well, he may get in the 5.5mil range. He's taking on a decent amount of risk for not much more over the same time span.

2) Demko has two RFA years left that we should be able to buy for cheap. If we take those two years at 4mil, and the following three years at 6mil, that averages out at 5.33mil per season. It isn't unreasonable to assume Demko could leave a few dollars on the table in the form of a hometown discount to assist a team on the rise, it's common for young players to do that if they want to build a winning team. Plus, Demko knows what our cap situation is, he also knows he has to re-sign in the same offseason as Pettersson and Hughes, I think he will be somewhat mentally prepared to take a bit less all things considered.

I could be wrong, just my best guess.

Great points and Demko knows Benning put a lot of faith in him and he by all accounts is good friends with the core of the team.
Vancouver is the type of city where if your rich and athletic not a party type, there aren't many places that offer mountains, oceans and lakes all within an hour of DT.

 

[flying v 604]

I think EP and Hughes both getting 8 million off their ELC's is batshit crazy, and I'm a fan of both.

It's not gonna happen unless they are 8×7 or 8×8 and they would be silly to sign that when the market should be back to normal in 3-4 years.

 

[Mido]

3 franchise players to be signed, a front office to be blown up, and coaching staff contracts all expiring. Quite the off season coming up here.

 

[Patagonia]

I think EP and Hughes both getting 8 million off their ELC's is batshit crazy, and I'm a fan of both.

VAN is a very generous team.

Benning is Bats$$t crazy....

 

[Son of Petter]

Benning has set his own market. When Sutter makes 4M and Loui and Myers make 6M what do the actual good players deserve?

I think EP and Hughes both getting 8 million off their ELC's is batshit crazy, and I'm a fan of both.

 

[Son of Petter]

If you think Aqua is going to approve buyouts in this economy I don’t know what to say. Ep & Wuinn at 7M would be great tho.

It isn't really as bad as you think, even Benning should be able to figure this one out:

Miller	5.25	Pettersson	7	Boeser	5.88
Hoglander	0.89	Horvat	5.5	Virtanen	2.55
Motte	1.2			Podkolzin	0.9
Roussel	3	Beagle	3	MacEwan	0.88
		Gaudette	0.75
Edler	4	Myers	6
Hughes	7	Schmidt	5.95
Juolevi	1.2
Rathbone	0.93
Demko	4.9
Luongo	3.03	Cap Penalty
Ferland	0	LTIR
Eriksson	4	Buyout
Holtby	0.5	Buyout
Total Cap		74.31	Mil
Cap Space		7.19	Mil

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

7.19mil to sign a depth winger, back up goalie, bottom pairing defenseman, and 3rd line center. It can be done. It isn't an elite roster, but as long as we're smart and continue building for the year after we'll be perfectly fine.

 

[Lenerdosy]

I’ll be curious to see how they handle this contract. How much leverage do RFAs have?

Has arbritration. Problem is prior to this season he showed some promise but nothing concrete, same with how the first 10 games went (mind you team couldn't play D worth crap). His last 10 games have been really solid though so its still a small sample size, currently at 59 career games so very small sample size, so by end of the season he would have 75ish (I would have to do the math and figure out how many games he's likely to play but don't feel like doing that now), so that equates to a 1.5 seasons of a starting goalie? (in which 1/2 of those he was played like a #1 and not a backup).

 

[Lenerdosy]

Isn’t demko one of the best goalie this season and you think he’ll sign for less than 5.5?

59 career games isn't a whole lot of leverage. Had a bad start to the season, has been a lot better last 10 games though.

 

[lawrence]

Pettersson is not even a 7 million dollar player right now. If he wants to be one he better start posting more points and it can’t be against Ottawa and can’t be chunk of it off the power play. He’s lucky to see nylander money.

demko next contract will also factored in if we make the playoffs or if we don’t.

 

[Luck 6]

If you think Aqua is going to approve buyouts in this economy I don’t know what to say. Ep & Wuinn at 7M would be great tho.

Aqua may not be doing great with the Canucks, but it doesn’t mean his investments are failing. He is also a big wig in construction, and many companies had banner years. Stocks in general have been fairly successful this year as well, if you bought low on all these companies you would have made millions.

My point is he likely has a diverse portfolio, I don’t buy all the bullshit about him not wanting to spend.

 

[Crow]

4.25 x 3 is my guess.

 

[Peter Griffin]

3/4 years at $5M AAV is my guess.

 

[SensFactor]

4 years x 5.25 million/year

 

[BCNate]

It isn't really as bad as you think, even Benning should be able to figure this one out:

Miller	5.25	Pettersson	7	Boeser	5.88
Hoglander	0.89	Horvat	5.5	Virtanen	2.55
Motte	1.2			Podkolzin	0.9
Roussel	3	Beagle	3	MacEwan	0.88
		Gaudette	0.75
Edler	4	Myers	6
Hughes	7	Schmidt	5.95
Juolevi	1.2
Rathbone	0.93
Demko	4.9
Luongo	3.03	Cap Penalty
Ferland	0	LTIR
Eriksson	4	Buyout
Holtby	0.5	Buyout
Total Cap		74.31	Mil
Cap Space		7.19	Mil

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

7.19mil to sign a depth winger, back up goalie, bottom pairing defenseman, and 3rd line center. It can be done. It isn't an elite roster, but as long as we're smart and continue building for the year after we'll be perfectly fine.

I get where you are going with this, and agree 100%. Whether it plays out like you have here, or something else, There are options to create a little more space.
While 7.2 is not a ton of money, there is value out there. Look at a team like Florida who got Gudas, Wenneberg and Duclair for a little over 6. There is less cap space in the league this year, and more UFA's, many who will be looking for 1 year deals to get through the cap freeze.

I'd bring back Hawryluk for sure, he has looked good in our bottom 6 and has some real upside.

 

[604]

Demko should get $5m x 8 years.

 

[bandwagonesque]

5.5Mx5 is my guess, and that’s a fair contract, but it depends entirely on whether Demko wants to stay in Vancouver long-term.