Confirmed Trade: [TBL/MTL] Nesterov to MTL for Racine and 6th 2017

[Fragmuffin]

I remember how GUdas was being downplayed by some Bolts posters in the Coburn trade... and that enden up being a massive setal for the Flyers.

Not saying Nesterov is anything close to Gudas or that the deals are alike at all, but the narrative about the defenceman going the other way is pretty simmilar.

 

[Petes2424]

He's not very good.

This...

He has plenty of skill but suffers from Justin Schultz syndrome. He becomes lost in the moment during a play and makes horrible decisions.

Trade doesnt surprise me because Montreal plays a less structured game than Tampa and maybe, just maybe, he will find a role and grow into his talent.

 

[Price4Prez]

This...

He has plenty of skill but suffers from Justin Schultz syndrome. He becomes lost in the moment during a play and makes horrible decisions.

Trade doesnt surprise me because Montreal plays a less structured game than Tampa and maybe, just maybe, he will find a role and grow into his talent.

Montreal plays a less structured game? How did you manage to get to that conclusion haha . It`s actually because of STRUCTURE that the Habs are still #1 in their division and atop of league standings despite many key injuries and a slumping Price.

Also, I`ve watched enough Pens games this season to firmly say that Schultz is playing much better hockey for the Pens then he did with the Oilers. Sure, he isn`t the most solid defensive defencemen, but that's not the player he was or will be. If Nesterov can be a J.Schultz then i`ll take that and runnnnn with a big smile on my face.

As bad as Nesterov can seem to some fans, believe me, you have not watched enough Habs games to know how terrible Redmond/Johnston/Barberio have been.

I`ll take the occasional brain fart, poor mans MA Bergeron over those above any day.

 

[The Macho King]

I remember how GUdas was being downplayed by some Bolts posters in the Coburn trade... and that enden up being a massive setal for the Flyers.

Not saying Nesterov is anything close to Gudas or that the deals are alike at all, but the narrative about the defenceman going the other way is pretty simmilar.

Gudas' issue is his foot speed. And from what I've seen of him - it's still his issue. He's just learned to adapt better.

Gudas was well loved by the Tampa fanbase. Nesterov is universally derided. We're pretty good at evaluating our own players.

 

[Captain Mountain]

This...

He has plenty of skill but suffers from Justin Schultz syndrome. He becomes lost in the moment during a play and makes horrible decisions.

Trade doesnt surprise me because Montreal plays a less structured game than Tampa and maybe, just maybe, he will find a role and grow into his talent.

Isn't Schultz doing really well in Pittsburgh, at least offensively?

Man, how structured is Tampa? because Montreal plays a pretty structured game.

I'm not sure Montreal's expecting anything more than a 6-8 D that can move the puck, produce and can occasionally play forward. They don't really need more than that.

 

[Petes2424]

Montreal plays a less structured game? How did you manage to get to that conclusion haha . It`s actually because of STRUCTURE that the Habs are still #1 in their division and atop of league standings despite many key injuries and a slumping Price.

Also, I`ve watched enough Pens games this season to firmly say that Schultz is playing much better hockey for the Pens then he did with the Oilers. Sure, he isn`t the most solid defensive defencemen, but that's not the player he was or will be. If Nesterov can be a J.Schultz then i`ll take that and runnnnn with a big smile on my face.

As bad as Nesterov can seem to some fans, believe me, you have not watched enough Habs games to know how terrible Redmond/Johnston/Barberio have been.

I`ll take the occasional brain fart, poor mans MA Bergeron over those above any day.

Tampa is structured to a fault. Montreal let's their players play to their strengths more and doesnt try to define the player into their system. That's all I'm saying.

I think it's a good trade for Nesterov. If he's just as bad in Montreal, than they didnt lose anything really. He was never going to be successful in Tampa under their current regime.

 

[UnicornONtheCOBB]

Isn't Schultz doing really well in Pittsburgh, at least offensively?

Man, how structured is Tampa? because Montreal plays a pretty structured game.

I'm not sure Montreal's expecting anything more than a 6-8 D that can move the puck, produce and can occasionally play forward. They don't really need more than that.

Schultz always had the skill, when he broke in during the lock out season, he absolutely destroyed in the AHL, it was unreal how good he was. He came up to the NHL and had a solid rookie season that would of worked out to 45-50 points over a whole season. His D was never great, neither was his shot, but he's great skater and can really move the puck.

The problem in Edmonton was he was playing with a young team, and way too far up in their D line up. He lost his mojo, his confidence, and the fans turned on him. His contract was already at 4 million, so there was no chance anyone in the whole league was going to qualify him at that, so he had to be moved because he was basically a pending UFA.

In Pitt, he's playing with a championship calibre team, with some of the best players in the world. He's got his offensive game going again. The structure does help, no doubt about it, but if the skill isn't there, it won't matter. Schultz has elite skating and puck moving abilities, simple as that. You add talent, confidence, and structure and that equals success.

 

[HCH]

If he is better than Racine, it is a positive move for Montreal. 6th round picks are virtually worthless.

 

[Speed Shooter]

If he is better than Racine, it is a positive move for Montreal. 6th round picks are virtually worthless.

Not necessarily. There are always late round gems that can be had.

D. Alfredsson was a 6th rounder.

P. Datsyuk was a 7th rounder.

J. Pavelski was a 7th rounder.

H. Zetterberg was a 7th rounder.

 

[euhchepas]

Not necessarily. There are always late round gems that can be had.

D. Alfredsson was a 6th rounder.

P. Datsyuk was a 7th rounder.

J. Pavelski was a 7th rounder.

H. Zetterberg was a 7th rounder.

out of how many hundreds of players picked in the later rounds in the last 20 years? the majority of 6th rounders don't even become AHLers

 

[respect the D]

Tampa is structured to a fault. Montreal let's their players play to their strengths more and doesnt try to define the player into their system. That's all I'm saying.

I think it's a good trade for Nesterov. If he's just as bad in Montreal, than they didnt lose anything really. He was never going to be successful in Tampa under their current regime.

lol, yeah ask Subban if your comment makes any sense

 

[Shady Machine]

This...

He has plenty of skill but suffers from Justin Schultz syndrome. He becomes lost in the moment during a play and makes horrible decisions.

Trade doesnt surprise me because Montreal plays a less structured game than Tampa and maybe, just maybe, he will find a role and grow into his talent.

Hey if he can turn it around and be the current Justin Schultz, then Montreal got a steal.

 

[Shady Machine]

Isn't Schultz doing really well in Pittsburgh, at least offensively?

Man, how structured is Tampa? because Montreal plays a pretty structured game.

I'm not sure Montreal's expecting anything more than a 6-8 D that can move the puck, produce and can occasionally play forward. They don't really need more than that.

Schultz is doing well at both ends. He's playing like a top 4 dman right now. Of course, his confidence is riding high so maybe it doesn't last, but comparing Nesterov to Schultz should be seen as a good thing for Montreal.

 

[Jared Dunn]

I first read this as Namestnikov and got pretty excited, don't mind this either. If he find a niche maybe he can carve out a spot as a decent #5/6

 

[Stammer Time*]

If he is better than Racine, it is a positive move for Montreal. 6th round picks are virtually worthless.

Can we get your 7th for Sustr then?

 

[Mugzy97]

Good trade for Montreal, kid is 23 y/o so he's probably still on the incline. Surprised Tampa couldn't get someone to beat this offer.

 

[Butchered]

Tampa didn't want him, he wanted out. We would have lost him on waivers. Instead we maybe got an AHL guy and a 6th round pick. It's a win.

MTL gets an asset for essentially nothing. Probably a win for them too.

 

[RyCam]

I think it's a good trade for both teams. The Habs get a player who can play both D and forward if there's an injury, and the Bolts get rid of a player that had become a detriment in the defensive zone.

It will work out for the Habs as long as they don't play him top D minutes against the opposing teams' top lines. He can be a serviceable PP specialist.

 

[Bouboumaster]

The cup is our.

 

[These Are The Days]

To the point of Gudas he was still a real piece of work when we traded him. Now that some time has gonna by he's developed very nicely and I wish him nothing but the best with the Flyers.

 

[Sky04]

I remember how GUdas was being downplayed by some Bolts posters in the Coburn trade... and that enden up being a massive setal for the Flyers.

Not saying Nesterov is anything close to Gudas or that the deals are alike at all, but the narrative about the defenceman going the other way is pretty simmilar.

Wait did you watch him the months before he became a Flyer? No? didn't think so.

 

[The Macho King]

Wait did you watch him the months before he became a Flyer? No? didn't think so.

TBF no one watched him the months before he became a Flyer because he was injured.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

With Therrien as coach, Nesterov will be paired with Weber by his 4th game.

Thats why Johnston, Barberio, Hanley and Redmond played a combined zero minutes with Weber...

 

[THE HOFF]

We're trying to tell you that he's not a serviceable bottom pairing D unless the definition for that has suddenly changed. At least he hasn't been on the Lightning hence all of us celebrating his departure. As for the deal itself, we don't really care.

maybe it was just a bad fit. We are used to having marginal nhlers overachieving in our lineup. Add the russian delegation we have here ... never know.

 

[Treb]

Tampa is structured to a fault. Montreal let's their players play to their strengths more and doesnt try to define the player into their system. That's all I'm saying.

I think it's a good trade for Nesterov. If he's just as bad in Montreal, than they didnt lose anything really. He was never going to be successful in Tampa under their current regime.

My brain doesn't compute this.