Question was why was this year a waste, you're talking about a hypothetical scenario. I'm not ready to assume if the coach will be back next year based on this years shortcomings in the win/loss column.
Tank vs Kids playing well. What would you rather?
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Question was why was this year a waste, you're talking about a hypothetical scenario. I'm not ready to assume if the coach will be back next year based on this years shortcomings in the win/loss column.
mariolemieux66
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Yep!
The Leafs management know what it takes to build a winning team. I really hope the Leafs win a cup before us to show our fan base that barely making the playoffs, trading a bunch of 2nd round picks for a playoffs push and still be in mediocrity for years needs to change.
CristianoRonaldo
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Yeah the players play to win... But we are not players, we are fans.
BTW rather kids play well.
Much rather have the kids play well.
By going by this you can establish much more of a pecking order in your depth charts. What have we learned?
-Pateryn has been in a top four role and has not floundered. Sure he is not a top four D man but he is in my mind a solid number five.
-Andrighetto has had a prolonged look in a top six role. Not saying that he has earned the right to be a top six player yet but he has proven to be a worthy full time NHLer. Once all players are healthy next year an offensive talent on the third line would be nice.
-Condon has looked solid of late and has for sure won the backup role for next year.
-Brown has been what has been missing for a long time. I was against claiming him but I will say I was wrong. Endless motor, hits, fights, plays a fourth line role perfectly. Now I am not sure if he should be back next year but hopefully his current playing style rubs off on the kids.
-Barbiero has looked like a solid sixth D man.
I could go on more but you guys get the point. So many prospects this year have been called up and then sent down just to go back and forth a few times. It is nice to get longer looks and I wish that Hudon and Holloway would get called up and shots playing full time for more than a two game stretch.
By going by this you can establish much more of a pecking order in your depth charts. What have we learned?
-Pateryn has been in a top four role and has not floundered. Sure he is not a top four D man but he is in my mind a solid number five.
-Andrighetto has had a prolonged look in a top six role. Not saying that he has earned the right to be a top six player yet but he has proven to be a worthy full time NHLer. Once all players are healthy next year an offensive talent on the third line would be nice.
-Condon has looked solid of late and has for sure won the backup role for next year.
-Brown has been what has been missing for a long time. I was against claiming him but I will say I was wrong. Endless motor, hits, fights, plays a fourth line role perfectly. Now I am not sure if he should be back next year but hopefully his current playing style rubs off on the kids.
-Barbiero has looked like a solid sixth D man.
I could go on more but you guys get the point. So many prospects this year have been called up and then sent down just to go back and forth a few times. It is nice to get longer looks and I wish that Hudon and Holloway would get called up and shots playing full time for more than a two game stretch.
Let's be real -- we weren't getting a top-five pick anyways. It's nice to dream of, but it wasn't going to happen anyways.
Tell me why, with a core of Subban, Price, Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, we would settle for a 3-5 year rebuild/retool when all we need is a top-six forward to round the team out?
Perfect answer.
Exactly. Despite the hysteria, the Habs are nowhere near bad enough to get a top-5 pick. A top-10 will be a good consolation prize for a lost season.
And as you said, we have legit stars who are in their prime. It's about now, not five years from now.
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Redux91
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yes but you have to quit making it sound like people tank on purpose.;..everyone else too for that matter...NObody tanks, nobody wakes up in the morning, player, coach or management thinking "ok we gotta lose tonight" it just doesnt happen
this is all about luck, you either suck enough or you dont
people post here thinking tanking is some kind of thing people do and its not, nobody has control over bad bounces in hockey games.. ok fans can hope and pray we lose some games thats fine, but to think "i cant beleive theyre not tanking for a better draft pick" like its on peoples agenda is just ludicrous, MAYBE some teams MAYBE think it, but certainly not the habs
fans can tank, organizations for the most part dont
we can look back and EASILy say "bah penguins tanked for malkin and crosby, chicago tanked for toews and kane" no...they were simply the JOKE of the NHL for a couple years, hit first overall picks and lucked out on generational talent
habs just never sucked enough, thats it, thats all
Disagree. With a little added scoring this team is ready as soon as next year.
Le Tricolore
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These teams didn't tank. These teams were really bad. There's a huge difference.
I want the Canadiens to dress their best lineup each game and I want the players to go out there and win.
Redux91
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Exactly
people have to realize we dont actually suck
weve been riddled by injuries and an incompetent coach
healthy and well balanced lines, this team can be a monster in the east
next year.
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Thank you man. Could not have said it better. Most of our ''kids'' are bottom 6 player. We need that top 3 pick to advance and take the next lvl. This team can't compete with Chicago or Caps for the stanley cups.
The people seem to have accepted mediocrity from this team. Remove Price and Chucky and you will see how bad this team is.
Just think how good the habs could have been.
Pac - chucky - Gally
Laine - Plekanec - Getto
Kudo Shinichi
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Remove Toews and Kane and see how bad Hawks become
Remove Crosby and Malkin ...
Remove Ovy and Holtby
Remove kopitar and doughty
etc...
That's what makes it interesting. Following the 2012 nightmare most of us assumed the Habs would be lucky to bounce back to mid-pack. Instead, we won the division. This season we looked poised to win it all. Instead, every frikkin thing went wrong. Ask fans of Columbus or Winnipeg how their predictions turned out. What a weird season...
And how they got those player? By tanking...
We won't be able to find or trade that big player in the market with Bergevin.
Price is not getting younger. He also seem to getting injure a lot lately...
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We weren't going to get Laine anyways. Stop kidding yourselves. We're nowhere near as bad as Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton and those other garbage teams at the bottom.
Like what? Adding a player who could POTENTIALLY contribute in a few years? When our core is also older?
We're not as bad as our record indicated. Adding a top-six player will do a world of good. It's like people have already forgotten we have the best goalie in the world, a top-5 defenseman and now have a legitimate number one center.
Like what? Adding a player who could POTENTIALLY contribute in a few years? When our core is also older?
We're not as bad as our record indicated. Adding a top-six player will do a world of good. It's like people have already forgotten we have the best goalie in the world, a top-5 defenseman and now have a legitimate number one center.
