Confirmed Trade: [STL/PHI] Kevin Hayes (50% retained) for 2024 6th round pick

TheKingPin

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The flyers are just going to be forever terrible. Why do they keep hiring ex players with no experience when there are other smarter people who can just make logical moves at least.
 
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Czechboy

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Cap is king in trades. If you have cap you can get some really good players.

I cannot wait to see the TK and EK returns.
 

Breakers

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The owner continues to eat massive sums of money because he couldn’t realize what everyone in the world knew, which is that your GM is a complete idiot.
 

weklof

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I don't understand this at all for Philly. A 6th round pick is very unlikely to develop into a quality NHLer, so Hayes is basically free. Now the Flyers have $3.5 million on the books, and perhaps more importantly, a retained salary slot locked up for the next 3 years. It's not like they were in cap hell and were desperate to shave half of the contract. What is the gain here for Philly?
 

mattyboy

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Taylor Hall was just traded at 50% retention for pretty much nothing. Johansen was traded at 50% for literally nothing.

So What were you expecting? The problem isn’t Briere. It’s your expectations that don’t match reality
Taylor Hall was just traded at 50% retention for pretty much nothing. Johansen was traded at 50% for literally nothing.

So What were you expecting? The problem isn’t Briere. It’s your expectations that don’t match reality.
Boston didn’t retain on Hall.
Johansen has two years remaining. Not 3.
 

Maurice of Orange

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That is absolutely GARBAGE return for sending a team Kevin Hayes and paying him $3.57m a year for 3 years. Hayes as a FA is getting more than a 3 yr/$11m contract.

Flyers continue to eat $3.57m a year for the next 3 years. Let a team get Hayes at a discount to what he'd command as a UFA and they get a 6th round pick out of it.

Briere looks like he just showed its open season on taking advantage of him.
Hey look at the bright side the Flyers aren’t taking on an extra year of Krug’s contract and the Flyers keep Sanheim in their back pocket for another move if needed.
 

Linkens Mastery

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I don't understand this at all for Philly. A 6th round pick is very unlikely to develop into a quality NHLer, so Hayes is basically free. Now the Flyers have $3.5 million on the books, and perhaps more importantly, a retained salary slot locked up for the next 3 years. It's not like they were in cap hell and were desperate to shave half of the contract. What is the gain here for Philly?
Making Torts happy? Maybe? Idk.
 

bleuetbio

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Less than 4M$ for a years Kevin Hayes? Sounds like a realy good deal for St-Louis. Kind of bizarre that Flyers cant land more
 

jfhabs

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What a steal for St.Louis.
Brace yousrelves Flyers fans, you're team is going full Chicago tank
 

BleedBlue14

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I don't understand this at all for Philly. A 6th round pick is very unlikely to develop into a quality NHLer, so Hayes is basically free. Now the Flyers have $3.5 million on the books, and perhaps more importantly, a retained salary slot locked up for the next 3 years. It's not like they were in cap hell and were desperate to shave half of the contract. What is the gain here for Philly?

This along with the others is probably a culture change movement for Philly.

It’s hard to hit the reset button with the same voices in the room.
 
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TheImpatientPanther

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Was thinking a team that had multiple 2nds in next few drafts would offer one of them for Hayes at 50%.
I get his defense is bad but he still has some offense in him no?

Odd move by Briere here IMO
 

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Hayes is one of a handful of players Tortorella apparently cannot coexist with, so he had to go at any cost. DeAngelo is another, there's speculation that Sanheim might be as well, but Sanheim has substantially more talent, so there should be value in that deal, at least.
That is the case with every destination Trots goes to. Some players love him but a lot hate him but coexisting with a coach or the lack of falls on the coach.
 
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jfhabs

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In typical Flyers fashion, one year after the generational talent is available to teams that go full tank.
Yeah well, only one team gets to have him and the others will continue to suffer. You don't recover a tank like that in one off season.
 

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