Confirmed Trade: [STL/PHI] Kevin Hayes (50% retained) for 2024 6th round pick

[BrindamoursNose]

Was he a cancer behind the scene?

I don't know if he was a cancer, but he certainly had influence in the room.

There was a period of time (almost the entirety of the last 3 years) where the Flyers seemed to exclusively bring in players because they were Kevin Hayes' buddies.

I'm sure he has a strong presence in the room and the Triumvirate of Briere, Torts, and Jones don't want that cornerstone anymore.

 

[SnS]

At ~3.6M I would have expected a higher pick for a legitimate 2nd liner.

I mean I guess if you have low expectations for a second liner. Hayes is a lazy dog, he isn’t a second liner on a good team.

 

[Holden Caufield]

Vrana (@2.5M) for a 7th
Hayes (@3.5M) for a 6th.

Those are some pretty good dumpster diving finds by STL.

As a discount shopper myself, I respect the hustle.

 

[TheBeard]

Hayes is one of a handful of players Tortorella apparently cannot coexist with, so he had to go at any cost. DeAngelo is another, there's speculation that Sanheim might be as well, but Sanheim has substantially more talent, so there should be value in that deal, at least.

I feel like this always seems to be an issue with Torts. He did not at the time nor does he still seem like the right guy for this team at this point. No?

 

[SnS]

I don't know if he was a cancer, but he certainly had influence in the room.

There was a period of time (almost the entirety of the last 3 years) where the Flyers seemed to exclusively bring in players because they were Kevin Hayes' buddies.

I'm sure he has a strong presence in the room and the Triumvirate of Briere, Torts, and Jones don't want that cornerstone anymore.

Reminded me of a low-key wannabe Frat.

 

[Superlative Soup]

Is this really a good use of a retention slot?

 

[TheBeard]

I don't know if he was a cancer, but he certainly had influence in the room.

There was a period of time (almost the entirety of the last 3 years) where the Flyers seemed to exclusively bring in players because they were Kevin Hayes' buddies.

I'm sure he has a strong presence in the room and the Triumvirate of Briere, Torts, and Jones don't want that cornerstone anymore.

That's fair. Deal looked absurd when it was sign, that was pretty unanimous, but it's not like Philly's made, well ANY shrewd moves in the last few years.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

If Briere was able to move Hayes without retention and didn't give up any assets to do it after getting a Cap strapped team to retain on Provorov he is the early favorite for GM of the year. This is how you tear down the mess that Chucky built.

Edit: well it was originally posted without the retention. With retention its a meh deal. Put the trophy away.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Kinda wish the leafs made this deal. He’d be a excellent 3C

 

[Mr Kot]

So they moved him for cap, but for who?

 

[DomBarr]

what a let down!!! after all the rumors and shit over the weekend about this trade completely rejigging both teams.

 

[mattyboy]

Briere is in over his head.

Absolutely awful for flyers.

 

[One Winged Angel]

This just makes all of the Rangers having to move mountains to move Goodrow talk all the more funnier now.

 

[McJedi]

This seems like a much better bet for St. Louis than Johansen was for Colorado.

I get that Torts and Hayes didnt get along, but seems kind of like a pointless deal for Philly. Culture change I guess.

Still feels anti climatic though lol

I don’t know. If Hayes works out… yes. If not, he’s got an extra year of term on his deal.

Either way, the cost to acquire these two players at 50% retained was essentially nothing. and now they’ve set the market for all the other teams trying to dump bad contracts. You should expect to retain 50% and get nothing in return.

The best trade was Chicago getting Taylor Hall for nothing.

 

[SnS]

Briere is in over his head.

Absolutely awful for flyers.

Disagree.

Hayes blows.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Well the Briere honeymoon was shorlived.

Crazy low return for a 50pt center at 3.5mm for 3 years.

 

[ponder719]

I feel like this always seems to be an issue with Torts. He did not at the time nor does he still seem like the right guy for this team at this point. No?

Torts hasn't seemed like the right guy to most of us on here since day 1. That said, the Authentic Fans (tm) absolutely love it when the head coach is an angry asshole, so that's what we get.

 

[Zynbanejad]

Torts doesn't like Hayes because he smokes weed I'm pretty sure. He's a very likable dude. Torts is a dick.

 

[thefutures]

This just makes all of the Rangers having to move mountains to move Goodrow talk all the more funnier now.

Not sure what the correlation is? Pretty sure hayes is better than goodrow easily

 

[antman12]

Hayes is a mutt...good f*****g riddance.

 

[McJedi]

Briere is in over his head.

Absolutely awful for flyers.

Taylor Hall was just traded at 50% retention for pretty much nothing. Johansen was traded at 50% for literally nothing.

So What were you expecting? The problem isn’t Briere. It’s your expectations that don’t match reality.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Great deal for Stl

 

[SnS]

Well the Briere honeymoon was shorlived.

Crazy low return for a 50pt center at 3.5mm for 3 years.

I disagree with you.

It shows Hayes had no value. He needed to be removed from the room, he’s a Fratboy.

Would you rather have left him on the team to sit in the press box for the remainder of the contract and sulk like a baby who is entitled?

 

[TageGod]

Dominoes. Now all the trades can start. Catch of the offseason has moved.

 

[Flyerfan47]

Terrible for philly