Speculation: Stammergeddon 3.0

[Todd1a]

Lol he will ask JBB for 9 avv for 3 year term probably

 

[RDTBay4]

He'll sign for 2-2.5M less AAV than market value because Florida. Our cup window only stays open if his salary goes down as he moves into a different role with the team, PP/FO specialist and not a 1st line forward. Also remember, he doesn't play center anymore like he did when he signed last time. His defensive play has slid significantly and he randomly falls down more than Killorn.

I think 5.5M AAV, give or take a bit, on a 4-5 year term, with performance bonuses etc. to offset the salary would be fair. He'll be 37-38 at the end of the deal and can retire or sign one off deals until he's ready. It's hard to say though, as there's lots of other players contracts that come into the equation, and if Hagel continues to improve, he'll command a large contract.

It's what must be done for us to pay the up and coming players and bring in other pieces to remain competitive.

On the other hand, I fully understand what may be Stamkos' negotiating position. He has led the team to arguably dynasty status, a perennial contender, with back to back cups and 4 total cup appearances. He's also a point per game player, who's playmaking has improved. He has impeccable character on and off the ice. Additionally this may be Daddy's last chance at a big pay day for his young family. While it's not like he's broke by any stretch, his contracts are the source of his families future generational wealth.

It's not hard to imagine that teams wouldn't line up to sign Stamkos...but. Does he want to move for a slightly larger salary to bring leadership and help change the culture at a stumbling franchise, that's how he wants to end his career? A contender probably isn't going to have the cap space to sign Stamkos to a large contract that outweighs what we're offering plus everything he's built in Tampa, and it's not like he needs to go cup hunting because we aren't a contender.

In the end, I don't think he'll be going anywhere. I just hope JBB doesn't pull a JBB and make it rain. He should be paid based on what he will give us over the course of the contract, not what he gave us before.

 

[Hoek]

I dunno man. What team is gonna throw 10m AAV at a guy his age coming off numerous injuries in this kind of cap environment? Only a team with a ton of space like Chicago could afford to gamble like that. 7.5 or so seems about right, both sides would hurt a little so that's how you know it's a deal.

 

[CupsOverCash]

I think one thing we can think about and maybe it's in line with whatever he does next. He took a decent pay cut to stay here at least at the time it was thought that. Later on people are saying and probably accurate that he's where he should be paid but that wasn't the thought when he was about to get paid. People thought it would could be another 2 or 3 mil. We don't contend for as long as we do without that pay cut. Every little bit every player has sacrificed helped with that. Now the way the organization runs and its possible to keep the train rolling as long as possible. I think all said and done he does similar thing if he wants to come back and it sounds like he does. I think they will figure it out and make it work somehow.

 

[Bozo Nicholson]

Lol he will ask JBB for 9 avv for 3 year term probably

He would then get booked an appointment with Kyle Dubas.

 

[DFC]

I dunno man. What team is gonna throw 10m AAV at a guy his age coming off numerous injuries in this kind of cap environment? Only a team with a ton of space like Chicago could afford to gamble like that. 7.5 or so seems about right, both sides would hurt a little so that's how you know it's a deal.

Nah, 10 isnt happening if only because of his age. I mean maybe if he pops 50, somebody offers him 10 without much term. But as is, I think his UFA value is likely about what he's making now.

 

[Gubbhornet]

If he is not looking for something ridiculous, he should stay. You don't let your multi-cup winning captain go. You SHOULD overpay them their last years before retirement. That sends the message for future top players that the franchise will take care of you and your family and that will make future stars sign with a discount.

 

[Zwui21]

If he is not looking for something ridiculous, he should stay. You don't let your multi-cup winning captain go. You SHOULD overpay them their last years before retirement. That sends the message for future top players that the franchise will take care of you and your family and that will make future stars sign with a discount.

History proves the opposite. Look at the Hawks with Toews. Overpaid for his past performances, a cap nuance for the last 4-5 years of his contract.

In a hard cap situation as we are now, we can't afford to pay players for the glory they brought in the past unless they are able to repeat those performances.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Stamkos probably will re-sign either way and will find a number that works for both I think.

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

Retirement contract at a nice discount. If he didn't leave us for the leafs when he could have gotten more I doubt he is going to leave now.

 

[Zwui21]

Spicy

 

[VinikToWinIt]

Spicy

Stammergeddon 2: Electric Boogaloo

 

[Todd1a]

https://x.com/gabby_shirley_/status/1704493045456998636?s=46

Spicy

Oh boy JBB

 

[Felonious Python]

Toronto media has picked up on Stamkos's statement. It'll probably have to get addressed again.

Everyone with TB wants Stammer to stay, but I don't know if the coaches/management entirely know what the team is going to look like this season. Is ABB up? Brown? Watson? Where does Sheary slot in?

 

[Steazy Doo]

The annoying part is that there is obviously no communication going on. Not a good look for JBB in my humble opinion

 

[JoVel]

There has probably not been any talks because he's looking for a 1 year deal so he can go to Toronto when Tavares' contract ends.

 

[Peacefool]

Ahah all those conspiracies,theories, ideas of how big salary he will get,all these fighting with each other "he will get 8mil" "No,r u blind he is bad PO player he will get 6 max!" All hopes that he will be aigbed this summer,and laughs that "LOL his agent will hold untill end of the next summer" all this through whole offseason,and than comes Stammer and says what he said

 

[Felonious Python]

If only TB had gone through Stammer's phone, they'd know how much it was bothering him...

 

[Hoek]

JBB is kind of in a tough spot since he doesn't want to low ball Stammer too hard but he needs to know how much he has to work with, so not sure what there is to talk about right now until he knows what the cap situation looks like.

 

[Felonious Python]

JBB will have media availability later today.

 

[JoVel]

Stammergeddon pt. 2 confirmed.

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[The Gongshow]

Stammergeddon pt. 2 confirmed.

Ah shit. He's gone

 

[ccman68]

i just don’t know if we can keep the window open while paying a declining stamkos 8+ million so it’s just a question of whether we should keep a club legend around or just be ruthless like we were with mcdonagh

 

[Coopers Gum]

I doubt Stamkos would want the moon though. He’s taken team friendly deals in the past, why should his twilight years be different if he’s constantly said he wants to retire here?