McKenzie: (Speculation) Matthews could sign 5-6 year deal for 11-12 Million dollars this week

[vanarchy]

How is Bob so god damn clutch every time? What a legend.

 

[Devilsfan118]

High cap hit but that’s fine.

The term is concerning. Only five years?

Combine that with the upcoming Marner deal, Nylander and Tavares deal and the Leafs are in cap trouble very quickly.

Listen, anything can happen in five years.. but I don't see how the Leafs will keep this team together over the next decade.

Especially if they win a cup or two and give their players more bargaining power. Though, I suppose many will feel it will be worth it if they do win it all.

 

[NextYear67]

OMG almost 12m for 5 years......

I have had enough

Enough of what? Being a top team in the league?

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

ok, but if Dubas signs all of Matthews/Nylander/Marner....while keeping the cap manageable enough to fill other holes....shouldn't we be happy with a 5-7 years run?

You’re also excluding the 11 million man John Tavares.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Dubas needed to sign Matthews. Irregardless of how it got done. The fear always was how much he would get and what it would leave on the table to shore up the D. He will get Marner signed, but he is barely leaving any money on the table to fill other holes.

 

[joe dirte]

The only problem is Matthews is getting 5-6 years @ $11.5 M. Per Mackenzie. Why is he giving up 2-3 UFA years for $500K. He’s not. Reality will hit for Leafs fans soon. Great team but that’s the problem — tough to keep them together.

Huh? you mean for a $500K premium over the $11M he's already going to get right?

I find it funny, fans of so many teams frothing at the mouth about reality hitting. The goal posts shift every year. "Yeah right they won't make the playoffs they were last place last year". Leafs make playoffs. "Leafs won't make it out of first round!!! hahahahah". Now all of a sudden the goal posts have moved to "reality will hit the Leafs when Matthews hits UFA in 6 years he's going to go to the USA".

LOL. It's actually pretty fun watching you and your ilk.

 

[Just Rude]

or have a GM with experience so you can keep them

Who are they losing?

 

[joe dirte]

I wonder what Marner the better player between the two is going to get

Given that he's 2 or 3 tiers better than Draisaitl, take his salary, add a few, then take off the millions Draisaitl is overpaid.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Odd reaction in this thread. Almost as if individuals who don't like the Leafs are doing a bit of mental gymnastics while simultaneously lubing up for the next half decade.

Its fun.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Great...Leafs sign Matthews and Nylander so far....bring on the haters.

so just because theyre signed its okay?

Maple Leafs have overpaid about 3-4 mil between two players already, when will you learn agents are eating your GM up?

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Listen, anything can happen in five years.. but I don't see how the Leafs will keep this team together over the next decade.

Especially if they win a cup or two and give their players more bargaining power. Though, I suppose many will feel it will be worth it if they do win it all.

It’s fair to be in win now mode, but also can’t ignore the impending cap problems the Leafs will have tied into five players.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Dubas needed to sign Matthews. Irregardless of how it got done. The fear always was how much he would get and what it would leave on the table to shore up the D. He will get Marner signed, but he is barely leaving any money on the table to fill other holes.

you mean Dubas needed to sign Matthews in September

 

[teleman]

11.6 x 5 overpay.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Unlike Matthews, Marner will have a 70 point season under his belt, strong playoff production and no injury history going into negotiations.

Magic Mitch and Darren Ferris must be licking their chops after seeing Dubas get bullied by Matthews/Nylander's agents.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

you mean Dubas needed to sign Matthews in September

Fair enough. For sure he shouldn't have waited until the end of the season.

 

[SensNation613]

The cap hit is in the right ballpark but the term is not.

 

[82Ninety42011]

11.6 x 5 overpay.

Is this a done deal buddy just texted to? If so congrats on dollar sucks about term as he's probably gone after. A little high but whats a million I guess.

Edit it's done just saw.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Friedman Says it's gonna be between 11.5 and 11.7

Wow for just 5 years. Not 8 either. He wins on both counts there, and then cashes in when he is 27.

 

[Sanchez]

Wow for just 5 years. Not 8 either. He wins on both counts there, and then cashes in when he is 27.

Or leaves LOL

 

[The Winter Soldier]

@ Kyle Dubas

If I were a Leafs fan. I would seriously start to question Dubas' negotiation skills. Nylander at 7M for 6 years, and Matthews at 11.7 for only 5 years. Crazy.

 

[Mr Hat]

One's already playing #1D minutes/usage in the AHL at 19 and one is on a 45 point pace as an 18 year old despite being known as a defense-first player. Neither of them will see the AHL after 2020.

I'm not saying they're going to be top pair defensemen on day 1, they just need to be roughly as good as Dermott is right now: capable of driving possession on a sheltered bottom pairing or being the support guy on a 2nd pairing.

I get what you're saying but disagree with the assumption that their floor in first few seasons is a bottom pairing. The 82 game grind of the NHL takes a lot of mental and physical maturity on top of just skill and hockey IQ. I don't agree with banking on prospects to solve cap problems as a winning formula.

 

[buggs]

The cap hit is in the right ballpark but the term is not.

Yeah, not really surprised at the $$ but that's only a single year of UFA bought up? I see it from the "contend now" perspective and bringing in Tavares for $11M set the bar (plus Eichel, etc.) but I'm not sure how they'll balance things going forward. Is Marner worth that much less?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[joe dirte]

idk what people you know but generally folks dont laugh when theyre upset

And we laugh at you. You don't know what it's like having players that demand elite player salaries in a cap NHL.

 

[vanarchy]

Odd reaction in this thread. Almost as if individuals who don't like the Leafs are doing a bit of mental gymnastics while simultaneously lubing up for the next half decade.

Its fun.

It might be a little late to lube it up after what Nylander did to Dubas.