no no you see what DH did only killed a MAN
the other monster beat up a woman
see today it's beat up woman>>>>>>>>>kill a man.
Value of: Slava Voynov’s rights
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no no you see what DH did only killed a MAN
the other monster beat up a woman
see today it's beat up woman>>>>>>>>>kill a man.
its not ignored it was 15-20 years ago, when laws for things like domestic abuse laws basically werent enforced as they are now. its because things were poorly adjudicated in the past that this is handled differently now.
so youre wrong Heatley is considered.... the Law is a living breathing thing and it changes over time
Syckle78
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Absolutely disgusting the lengths gone to shrug off a woman beating thug. One was an accident of youth. The other the conscience decision by a piece of shit.
absolutely disgusting how someone will call a conscious decision to drink and drive, endangering the lives of everyone on the road with them, an "accident of youth".
TheFinalWord
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Heatley didn't drink and drive. If he had, he would have been in prison.
Chairman Maouth
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Being below the legal limit doesnt mean you werent drinking and driving. Its possible to be impaired while under the legal BAC limit, and also possible to not be impaired while over it. To be specific, Georgia law allows for the issuance of a DUI offense while under the legal BAC if the driver exhibits behaviors of impairment, as judged by the officer. I'm not saying he was drunk. But he drank and then drove(unless of course, youre going to say he admitted to doing it just for kicks?). For any normal person, that's considered drinking and driving.
Dr Quincy
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Clearly you don't know what the legal definition of murderer is. Until you learn it you should perhaps refrain from using it.
TAYGB52
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NO F'N KIDDING! I don't like what Voynov did but to even compare it to what Heatley did is just ridiculous!
TAYGB52
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NORiculous
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So... what is the latest?
We know the league is stalling; do we know how long this can last? Is the PA doing something about it?
We know the league is stalling; do we know how long this can last? Is the PA doing something about it?
Dr Quincy
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Your books aren't a legal definition mate.
And why would the dead person be a murder?
TAYGB52
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I personal don't go by the letter of the law. Ever country has some laws that are nonsensical and just plain messed up!
Also, I think you know what he was saying, come on.
Smirnov2Chistov
EEK!
I still wish that Anaheim had the rights to this guy. Would rather have him over Schenn any day!
greasysnapper
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We'll likely know something after the Watson arbitration verdict which was conducted about a week ago. They've noted this neutral arbitrator will take their time in figuring a verdict (couple weeks) but I can't imagine it'll be too far away from now.
Spazkat
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I'm sure all teams what to win but bringing in a documented woman beater could only have positive results from a PR standpoint.
In the age we live in now there would be outrage and rightfully so. No team is going to touch that.
Not only this, but some people have extremely strong feelings about domestic abuse/abusers. All its going to take is one established member of the team to be one of those people and there goes your room. How many teams are going to be willing to take that chance?
greasysnapper
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See: The Houston Astros.
Verlander spoke out about Osuna, as soon as Osuna was acquired by the Astros, Verlander changed his tune. And largely so did the MLB and Astros fanbase especially as the Astros and Osuna look to go far this post season. When it comes down to it the average FAN (we're not talking about SJW who doesn't watch the sport) cares more about winning. And when players get to know one another it's largely a non-issue. Especially when you consider how many current NHLers Voynov and his wife were visiting this summer. He's liked by his teammates.
Back on topic,
Given what some team's paid for dmen this year, I think Voynov even with the baggage will be worth more than a 5th. I wouldn't be surprised if he could fetch LA a conditional 3rd+ now. It'll depend largely on what sort of penalty the NHL imposes. His value will only go up if we start to see more injuries.
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If you took away the baggage, he’s likely a top pairing defenseman and would be worth at least a first-round pick. Coincidentally, he’s exactly what the Kings need right now.
REALTALK81
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Don't see this going well. The last time Voynovs rights were discussed, he had cuffs on.
SHANNYPLAN
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No team worth it’s name would touch him with a ten foot pole
What kind of message would that send?
What kind of message would that send?
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many teams would take his rights, but not as he is. Not in the current political environment.
There are powerful groups who would be his enemies, but they are also fickle and would welcome him if he did the right things. He'd have to become an anti-abuse activist, and would have to donate significant cash to local women's shelters or other such ways to kiss the ring of feminist groups. And yes, part of that involves fully admitting what he did, and that would have to stay a major part of his life.
It can be done. It would be worst at first, but over time the intensity would soften.
There are powerful groups who would be his enemies, but they are also fickle and would welcome him if he did the right things. He'd have to become an anti-abuse activist, and would have to donate significant cash to local women's shelters or other such ways to kiss the ring of feminist groups. And yes, part of that involves fully admitting what he did, and that would have to stay a major part of his life.
It can be done. It would be worst at first, but over time the intensity would soften.
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