Sorry Billy i meant the poster not the goalie i should have clarified sorry
Prospect Info: SHL champion Elias Pettersson | SHL scoring champion, playoff MVP, WC gold
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Billy Kvcmu
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ChilliBilly
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Main problem I see is that most of these prospects have a habit of telling the Canucks where they are going to play.... Canucks management has no clue what so ever.......
I don't think you even followed the Canucks back in 2018. Everyone wanted Hodgson at 10th.
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hey guys I updated my video, more goals and better music ;D
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Pavel96
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I remember going to a Blackhawks/Canucks game in 2009 and someone had a really nice Blackhawks jersey on with Beach on the back of it lol.
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He will be starting in Vancouver next year. Not just because of his talent but the needed marketing boost he will bring to the team. Not to mention the fact that this team can't score and if you are not scoring people start snoring. Question is how many rookies will the team take on? Probably a half dozen candidates that appear ready to take on an NHL role. Have to figure there might only be spots for 1 or 2 unless we go full Oiler.
They will definitely jam Juolevi onto the NHL squad too. A D+3 in the AHL for a 5th overall doesn't looked good, especially given his stagnating play in the OHL and Finnish league.
rune74
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This statement is obviously trying to put a negative spin on Juolevi....he hasn't stagnated this year in Finland at all. Can you please show where this is the case?
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Well, you can start with the easiest assessment that was available to literally everyone on this board for the last 3 years running.
Look at his most recent WJC, then the year before, and then the year before that. Tell us what the trend is.
Look at his two OHL years. Tell us what the trend is.
Look at the fact that he received fringe #4-5 icetime on TPS.
Look at the fact that he was actively healthy-scratched for multiple games.
Look at the fact that he was dressed as a 7th dman on multiple occasions.
Look at another younger Finnish defenseman in that league who was also drafted in the top-5
Draw a comparison based on their relative roles and production.
That'd be a start, if you cared to put in the effort.
Last I checked, this was an Elias Pettersson thread and not a management thread. Kindly get back on topic.
me2
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He had great start to Finnish season, 5-8-13 in 16 games. He's since gone 22 games for 2-4-6 and been sat at times. He's sitting about 9-11 in PPG for players on his team, depending on games played. Shades of London. Heiskanen, for example, is 3rd on his in PPG. Pettersson is tearing the shl apart.
Still we know until we see what he can do at NHL level, he can't be worse than last prospects camp, and we a year of pro hockey he might surprise.
rune74
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Had a good WJC, got scratched twice, played 7th dman twice, ended up being in the top 2.
But of course none of that got mentioned in that way. But do continue.
Just want to make sure everyone understands there is ZERO chance he plays center in the NHL,
We STILL need another center to compliment Horvat and build the team around,
I think Boesser, Peterson, Joulevi, Virtanen, Demko whoever we take 5th overall this year (Who won't be a center, I guarantee it, this team is allergic to centers) anybody but Horvat, should be packaged up and traded for either a blue-chip center or the ability to draft one.
I know, the only bright spots these days are Boesser and Peterson....and I hate to be the guy who serves the wake-up call, but.....WAKE UP!
Teams built around wingers FAIL, you can't build a cup team with wingers as your cornerstone (Remember the WCE? Bure/Mogilny?) The only times this team has advanced to a cup final were the very brief instances where we had our center ice position locked down, something that has been RARE over the history of this team.
The great sulker himself ("I really don't WANT to be in Vancouver, but I will stay as long as they pay me") Alex Mogilny said it best when lecturing Pat Quin in the early 90's:
"Well, if you can't find a center then trade me for one, everyone knows hockey starts and ends with the center ice position"
Wingers who score lots of goals are like seals who do tricks, kinda fun to watch..but if you're expecting more, you'll be disappointed, that's all they know how to do.....if they could do more, they would have been centers...or Dolphins
We STILL need another center to compliment Horvat and build the team around,
I think Boesser, Peterson, Joulevi, Virtanen, Demko whoever we take 5th overall this year (Who won't be a center, I guarantee it, this team is allergic to centers) anybody but Horvat, should be packaged up and traded for either a blue-chip center or the ability to draft one.
I know, the only bright spots these days are Boesser and Peterson....and I hate to be the guy who serves the wake-up call, but.....WAKE UP!
Teams built around wingers FAIL, you can't build a cup team with wingers as your cornerstone (Remember the WCE? Bure/Mogilny?) The only times this team has advanced to a cup final were the very brief instances where we had our center ice position locked down, something that has been RARE over the history of this team.
The great sulker himself ("I really don't WANT to be in Vancouver, but I will stay as long as they pay me") Alex Mogilny said it best when lecturing Pat Quin in the early 90's:
"Well, if you can't find a center then trade me for one, everyone knows hockey starts and ends with the center ice position"
Wingers who score lots of goals are like seals who do tricks, kinda fun to watch..but if you're expecting more, you'll be disappointed, that's all they know how to do.....if they could do more, they would have been centers...or Dolphins
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He's not playing center in the SHL,
Playing center in the NHL is the most challenging position of all, and if a guy isn't fulfilling that role in lesser leagues there's zero chance he does it in the worlds best one.
Think Druin, great playmaker, talented offensive guy, has a lot in common with Peterson actual, and Ehlers, which I think is a decent comparable, playmaking winger...NOT a center, the job is extremely demanding, offensive rovers don't make good centers and if you don't have a good center , the whole line goes the s**t
Matt Duchene is a great example of a guy who lines up at center ice, but that has ZERO clue as to how to play the position,
And you've probably noticed, any team he plays on goes to s**t, it's because you CAN'T have one of your top six centers not do the job properly, it KILLS a team.
Anyway, Peterson looks like a great offensive player, great, but he's shown nothing that demonstrates he can fulfill the responsibilities of a center iceman which go far beyond that, with a winger, that's pretty much the entire gig.
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Understood!!
"Teams built around wingers fail"
I just need some clarification according to your wingers prose, after drafting a winger in the 1st round of 2014 and then a winger in the 1st round of 2015, drafting a d-man (Juolevi) in the 1st round of 2016 instead of ANOTHER winger like Tkachuk was the proper, clinical, textbook move and needs not to be so heavily scrutinized like we see here now on these boards? It needs to be understood?
What about defence? Do we need defence? And is defence more important than wingers?
Tobi Wan Kenobi
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So when Pettersson is in his prime as a man you don't think he'll be any different than he is now which he has played some center and was fine? lol... He's pkaying against f***ing men in an undersized body... Give it time. He has all the makings of a franchise number one center. He's more cerebral than the Sedins. He'll figure it out. His vision and passing is insane. He'll be crafty and find a way. His body will fill out and he'll be able to lean on guys because imo he's a very strong guy for his size. He gets good body position and leverage. Not to mention how good he is defensively. Give me a break. To talk in absolutes that he wont be a center is insane...
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Dammit Jim!
It's not zero. But it is low and does not look promising. There are dozens and dozens of examples where players were full time at center in junior and still ended up at wing. In this case, he has clearly.played better on the wing and is currently played there. We should be projecting him as a winger.
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