Value of: Shea Theodore

[mondo3]

Dano from Wpg

 

[TML1967]

for Theodore?
thats way too much.

I quoted the Theodore+Montador+1st for Stepan trade an ANA fan put forward.

I suggested Kadri+Leivo/Leipisic+2nd, though id change it to swapping 1sts.

So Theo+Mont+2018 swap option
for
Kadri+Leivo/Leips + 2018 1st swap option (Ana can swap picks in 2018 or 2019, top 5 protected)

 

[tomd]

This thread has jumped the shark into utterly silly trade proposals. Time to shutter her down.

 

[dracom]

I quoted the Theodore+Montador+1st for Stepan trade an ANA fan put forward.

I suggested Kadri+Leivo/Leipisic+2nd, though id change it to swapping 1sts.

So Theo+Mont+2018 swap option
for
Kadri+Leivo/Leips + 2018 1st swap option (Ana can swap picks in 2018 or 2019, top 5 protected)

I still say no. Rather keep the expansion exempt defenseman when we would still have to move a D or risk losing one to Vegas. The deal just doesn't make sense for us.

 

[lindholmie]

I quoted the Theodore+Montador+1st for Stepan trade an ANA fan put forward.

I suggested Kadri+Leivo/Leipisic+2nd, though id change it to swapping 1sts.

So Theo+Mont+2018 swap option
for
Kadri+Leivo/Leips + 2018 1st swap option (Ana can swap picks in 2018 or 2019, top 5 protected)

if both theo and monty were being traded to TOR. you best believe marner/nylander are coming back lmao

 

[Mallard]

I quoted the Theodore+Montador+1st for Stepan trade an ANA fan put forward.

I suggested Kadri+Leivo/Leipisic+2nd, though id change it to swapping 1sts.

So Theo+Mont+2018 swap option
for
Kadri+Leivo/Leips + 2018 1st swap option (Ana can swap picks in 2018 or 2019, top 5 protected)

Can you provide the reasoning on why we would trade two ELC defensemen who are expansion exempt for the package you are offering? We are already losing one of Vatanen/Fowler; so who is replacing Vatanen/Fowler if we trade Theo and Montour?

I don't see where Kadri fits in our lineup and Leivo/Leipsic does nothing to help replace the young talent on defense that we drafted and will lose in this trade?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Yea that's prob what I would look at, no interest in jvr... I think theo and kapanen are fairly close in value... as a starting point I like theo for kapanen tho.

If I were trading Theodore to Toronto I'd be looking at Kapanen to be honest. Not saying 1 for 1 necessarily but something around those two. But that's just me.

I tried to grab Stoner to help balance this out a bit more, I understand the interest in Kapanen but ehhhh I dunno.

 

[Sojourn]

I tried to grab Stoner to help balance this out a bit more, I understand the interest in Kapanen but ehhhh I dunno.

"Balance" has become a catch word thrown around to put together trades that get more, while giving less.

 

[WTFMAN99]

"Balance" has become a catch word thrown around to put together trades that get more, while giving less.

Stoner isn't exactly the blueline upgrade I had in mind this summer but I understand that you need 2 parties to make a deal.

So far the counter has been Kapanen. I understand that.

Is there any (other) alterations you can think of based around my original proposal idea?

 

[Mallard]

Stoner isn't exactly the blueline upgrade I had in mind this summer but I understand that you need 2 parties to make a deal.

So far the counter has been Kapanen. I understand that.

Is there any (other) alterations you can think of based around my original proposal idea?

To be honest not many Ducks fans are interested in JVR, and I'd rather keep Theodore and see how he progresses than have Marincin/Marchenko. I have nothing against Marincin/Marchenko but I don't see why I would rather them over Theodore?

 

[MMC]

Would Sheary for Theodore work for you? Both are expansion exempt, so that wouldn't be an issue for either team. I question how well Sheary would fit with the Ducks, but he's still a 2nd line forward.

Hell yeah I'd do this but I'm a HUGE Sheary fan.

 

[crowi]

wait am I reading that you decline Kadri++ for Theodore?

Thats like me saying no to Kesler++ for Zaitsev or Gardiner

wait, you don't understand salary cap, team needs nor ELC. "Thats" not surprising.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

wait, you don't understand salary cap, team needs nor ELC. "Thats" not surprising.

I am fully aware of those things, however at the time of the post the original context of that discussion wasn't evident. So it appeared as though some Ana fans were saying no to a Kadri++ deal for Theodore. Cap/needs or not you make a deal 10/10 times where you win the value this much.

 

[crowi]

I am fully aware of those things, however at the time of the post the original context of that discussion wasn't evident. So it appeared as though some Ana fans were saying no to a Kadri++ deal for Theodore. Cap/needs or not you make a deal 10/10 times where you win the value this much.

Maybe to trade kadri, but for nothing else. He is not close to Kesler as #2C.

 

[dracom]

I am fully aware of those things, however at the time of the post the original context of that discussion wasn't evident. So it appeared as though some Ana fans were saying no to a Kadri++ deal for Theodore. Cap/needs or not you make a deal 10/10 times where you win the value this much.

You don't actually take that trade when it hurts your defense that much and adds a player you just don't need.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Maybe to trade kadri, but for nothing else. He is not close to Kesler as #2C.

seem fairly comparable this year and I expect going forward.

 

[Sojourn]

I am fully aware of those things, however at the time of the post the original context of that discussion wasn't evident. So it appeared as though some Ana fans were saying no to a Kadri++ deal for Theodore. Cap/needs or not you make a deal 10/10 times where you win the value this much.

With all due respect, I think the issue here is that you were in such a rush to scoff at the proposal, and the subsequent denial, that you didn't bother to read the post that was being quoted.

 

[AngelDuck]

The only way I trade a defenseman as young and talented as Theodore is if I'm getting a surefire top 6 player that has the potential to be a top liner at some point.

We've put a lot of effort into developing these young defensemen we are not going to dump them for a team dealing off the bottom of the deck

 

[dracom]

seem fairly comparable this year and I expect going forward.

One was nominated for the Selke, the other doesn't even play on his teams PK

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I tried to grab Stoner to help balance this out a bit more, I understand the interest in Kapanen but ehhhh I dunno.

Any trade involving a young dmen for jvr has to take stoner back either way... the cap situation wouldn't work if you don't take money back so its more of a forced "balance".

I just cant see us trading theo/Montour/Larsson for anything less then a cap controlled good forward, jvr wont be resigned in Anaheim no way we can afford him that off season.

Kapanen is the main guy id want, and I think anything less would likely be out bid on if he was made available

 

[Deadly Dogma]

With all due respect, I think the issue here is that you were in such a rush to scoff at the proposal, and the subsequent denial, that you didn't bother to read the post that was being quoted.

pretty much nails it

 

[Flair Hay]

The willingness to dump a top prospect for nothing because of a rough playoffs as a 21 year old is amazing lol

You can't say he doesn't care haha

 

[Ducks in a row]

Theodore, Mountour and 2018 Duck 1st
for
Stepan
reasonable cap dump is acceptable for balance of 6.5 vs 2 ELCs

So we trade 2 expansion exempt defenseman and a 1st for a expensive center that we don't need. We have no cap dump that is so bad that we would ever in a million years consider making a trade like this. For the love of hockey think about a team other then the Rangers before post such trash.

JVR
Marincin/Marchenko

for

Stoner
Theodore
2nd

?

And again another JVR to Anaheim post god damn when will they stop?

I quoted the Theodore+Montador+1st for Stepan trade an ANA fan put forward.

I suggested Kadri+Leivo/Leipisic+2nd, though id change it to swapping 1sts.

So Theo+Mont+2018 swap option
for
Kadri+Leivo/Leips + 2018 1st swap option (Ana can swap picks in 2018 or 2019, top 5 protected)

That wasn't a Ducks fan posting for us to make that trade it was a crazy Rangers fan. We are not trading away Montour and Theodore I don't think we will even trade 1 of them.