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This will be the last start Crawford “deserves” IMO. After this game it should be 100% results-based. Hawks need to make the playoffs
Sorry, I'm not buying it. If bad ice was an excuse then it would have affected more guys than just Keith, and it really didn't. Keith simply looked like his head was elsewhere and he 100% wasn't ready to play--like he did for the entire 2018 season--on good ice. Hell, Seabrook looked better than his usual self! He went from old-and-slow last year on good ice to invisible on bad ice. Gus looked like a 13th fwd last year and looked like a 13th fwd this past game. Kane and Debrincat had no trouble, either. So, either most of the rest of our guys were prepared for bad ice and Keith wasn't, or Keith was just bad.i want to see how keith does on a decent ice surface before i write him of for the retirement home myself. it seemed to me like the rough ice was really messing with him (especially on the second konecny goal). but this game will probably be a weathervane for how the team's gonna be for the rest of the month if nothing else, so we'll see.
de Haan in?
Sounds like Marleau is jumping right into a top 6 spot tomorrow. Wonder what kind of shape he’s even in right now with no training camp and just practicing once with the sharks. Takes a bit longer to get the timing back
That is a slow ass lineup. Hawks gotta kill them with speed.
If bad ice was an excuse then it would have affected more guys than just Keith
okay, first of all, i didn't say it was an excuse. i said it was a possible explanation and i'm withholding judgment. his being bad in the game is not in question here. if he was bad because of the ice, he was still bad. secondly, that's not even necessarily true. the fact that the ice was choppy doesn't mean that it would affect everyone exactly the same way, or that it would make more people have a game as bad as him. it is perfectly possible that he was particularly affected by the bad ice. again, i'm not even saying that's definitely what happened, but its not entirely unlikely, and i would like to see how he does in this game before i write him off.So, either most of the rest of our guys were prepared for bad ice and Keith wasn't, or Keith was just bad.
you have no possible way of knowing whether or not what you are saying here actually reflects reality beyond how it appeared to you. it's such a vacuous point to say that the guy "looked like he had his head elsewhere". for my money, i would say that the professional hockey player going into his fifteenth full nhl season probably had his mind on playing hockey. also, the dude had 40 points last year and he wasn't utter cancer with the puck. how do you figure he looked like this all last year? from what i saw, he was one of the only somewhat steady defenders on the team for wide swaths of the season.Keith simply looked like his head was elsewhere and he 100% wasn't ready to play--like he did for the entire 2018 season--on good ice.
i didn't say that's what you were doing, i just said i'm not doing that.That's not relegating him to the retirement home
Sounds like Marleau is jumping right into a top 6 spot tomorrow. Wonder what kind of shape he’s even in right now with no training camp and just practicing once with the sharks. Takes a bit longer to get the timing back
Read my post again. 2018. Last season was 2019. 2018 was the season before--the one where Keith sucked worse than any year since his debut in 2006. He was out of position, coughing up the puck, had bad decision making, and was getting beat like Rodney King night-in/night-out...just like last game.okay, first of all, i didn't say it was an excuse. i said it was a possible explanation and i'm withholding judgment. his being bad in the game is not in question here. if he was bad because of the ice, he was still bad. secondly, that's not even necessarily true. the fact that the ice was choppy doesn't mean that it would affect everyone exactly the same way, or that it would make more people have a game as bad as him. it is perfectly possible that he was particularly affected by the bad ice. again, i'm not even saying that's definitely what happened, but its not entirely unlikely, and i would like to see how he does in this game before i write him off.
you have no possible way of knowing whether or not what you are saying here actually reflects reality beyond how it appeared to you. it's such a vacuous point to say that the guy "looked like he had his head elsewhere". for my money, i would say that the professional hockey player going into his fifteenth full nhl season probably had his mind on playing hockey. also, the dude had 40 points last year and he wasn't utter cancer with the puck. how do you figure he looked like this all last year? from what i saw, he was one of the only somewhat steady defenders on the team for wide swaths of the season.
i didn't say that's what you were doing, i just said i'm not doing that.
ah, fair enough. christ, i still feel like 2018 was last year.Read my post again. 2018. Last season was 2019. 2018 was the season before--the one where Keith sucked worse than any year since his debut in 2006. He was out of position, coughing up the puck, had bad decision making, and was getting beat like Rodney King night-in/night-out...just like last game.
No worries...I think it's safe to say that for all of the guys who had a bad game in Prague...we hope they're better tonight.ah, fair enough. christ, i still feel like 2018 was last year.
It really sucks that he gets to have that username.
Marleau is still better than who ever he replaced in their line up.
Dude had more goals last year than all but 6 guys in our line up.
oh how noble of you. yes, it is your sacred duty to deliver unto us all your lukewarm repetitive hockey takes. surely the existence of one person on the internet screaming about how a general manager with three stanley cup rings is incompetent is going to bring about the changes oh so desperately needed by the organization. we are all infinitely indebted to your wisened revelations.I am gonna continue to be critical of the management and the team as long as I don’t see results. That’s my duty as a fan, the team won’t get better if there are no people calling out what’s going on and sending a message by not spending their money on it.
He barely played with good players, from what I remember. He was mainly with their bottom 6. Not Matthews, Marner and Tavares.His stats were inflated playing with that offense.
If there is a team that can finally get them going and give a W on that win column it’s gotta be the Hawks!
thought you'd slip this nonsense by me?Annnnnnnd as expected... Some just won’t accept reality for the sake of staying “positive”
thought you'd slip this nonsense by me?
no, i accept reality perfectly well. i never said that every word that comes out of your mouth should be positive. what i said was that you add nothing to the conversation. at all. and i stand by that.
again, that is not the issue. i'm not trying to get you to be a yes man. the issue is that nothing you say is of any substance.I’ll talk very positive when the team starts winning
say whatever you want. i can't stop you. but i can certainly call you out for being the absolute laziest poster on this board. as i said before, your comments are repetitive, and you never bring anything to the table as far as analysis goes.I’ll continue to say what I got to say, this team sucks and everyone needs to hear it, I am just done with the Stan excuses.
again, that is not the issue. i'm not trying to get you to be a yes man. the issue is that nothing you say is of any substance.
say whatever you want. i can't stop you. but i can certainly call you out for being the absolute laziest poster on this board. as i said before, your comments are repetitive, and you never bring anything to the table as far as analysis goes.