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Speculation: Sharks 2015-2016 Roster Talk: Rumors, Roster, Proposals. Part I
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Fistfullofbeer
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Seriously. I don't know what is going on at home.
We are 0/21 on the PP (last place) and 5/19 on the PK (25th in the league).
The road numbers while not great are more middle-of-the-pack. 9/48 on the PK (12th) and 9/45 on the PP (14th). We have played only 8 games at home as opposed to 13th on the road, so a good home-stand may even things out but I do think that the coaching staff needs to focus a little bit more on special teams.
All that being said, it is really commendable that the team is in 1st place with the bad ST play and not having Couture.
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The special teams are not that bad, chill. They're getting ****ed by bad percentages. They're a little below average league-wise in terms of shot rates. Couture being back should put the 1PP back on track, and he's also an elite penalty killer. That'll help. If it's still not good enough, make sure the #6 RHD you acquire at the deadline is PP-capable.
Mediocre special teams is really not bothering me right now.
Mediocre special teams is really not bothering me right now.
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I know deboer said he wants to win 5v5 but when games are so even in the playoffs the 1 or 2 pps you get might be the decider. So I hope they start to work on it a bit. I do agree that the percentages are low. Entries and passing look good though
bigwillie
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What kind of PP specialists might be available at the deadline? I'd be OK flipping Wingels for a defenseman if he can QB a 2nd unit powerplay effectively and not be a tire fire 5v5.
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From what I can tell from stat checking is that you can get by in the playoffs with a garbage PP. PK matters a lot more but even then, neither of them really correlate that strongly to playoff victory.
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I will also say that there were years when the Sharks had stellar special teams, and one common knock against them on these boards was that they were too reliant on the PP to generate offense to be successful in the postseason, where man-advantage opportunities are at a greater premium. I do hope DW and PDB do some work to improve special teams, but I am very happy that they've been able to put up wins having such miserable PP/PK rates.
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I agree, this is a silver lining.
Conspiracy theory time, they are doing this on purpose to force the team to play 5vs5 better
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I'm bored, so have been looking over hockeyscap and pondering what ifs.....
Braun + 2nd to the Isle for Hamonic
Hamonic + Brown (cap) to the Wild for Spurgeon + Granlund
Then Couture to Preds for Seth Jones + 2nd
end up with:
Karlsson - Thornton - Pavs
Marleau - Hertl - Ward
Donskoi - Granlund - Wingels
Nieto - Tierney - Smith
Torres - Goodrow
Vlasic - Seth Jones
Martin - Burns
Dillon -Spurgeon
Mueller - Tennyson
Jones
Stalock
OK, off to actual work now, but fun pondering.....
Braun + 2nd to the Isle for Hamonic
Hamonic + Brown (cap) to the Wild for Spurgeon + Granlund
Then Couture to Preds for Seth Jones + 2nd
end up with:
Karlsson - Thornton - Pavs
Marleau - Hertl - Ward
Donskoi - Granlund - Wingels
Nieto - Tierney - Smith
Torres - Goodrow
Vlasic - Seth Jones
Martin - Burns
Dillon -Spurgeon
Mueller - Tennyson
Jones
Stalock
OK, off to actual work now, but fun pondering.....
Gilligans Island
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Marek Zidlicky & Okposo for Wingels and ?
One can dream.
I agree the 3rd pairing RD who can be a PP QB is the spot to focus on. Wait for Couture to return to assess the special teams.
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Yah, he'd be ideal, seems unlikely though unless Colorado is stupid (which is possible).
Braun for Barrie might work for both teams though. Colorado shores up their defense, we improve our offense, etc. Rather keep Braun if possible though, otherwise the net gain isn't all that great, more of a sideways move.
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& Hertl....maybe Braun more realistically, but that I think they'd pass on Braun, unless there was a Hamonic trade which would bring them a forward to replace Okposo. Okposo would cost a ton.
Zidlicky would be okay, Demers would actually be ideal, but no chance dallas trades him.
Spurgeon, Barrie, or Byfuglien would be incredible, but all will cost a lot of assets, starting with a 1st (and someone will move their 2016 1st for them) or top 6 forward (yes, better than Wingels).
Gilligans Island
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I'd prefer Barrie, too, but price would be much higher than a rental like Zidlicky.
If the Avs want Braun, then maybe but we'd still have a hole in our 3rd RD since Barrie would play top 4 minutes.
Yeah, those 3 are much more enticing now and in the long run but cost would be higher. I was looking for a rental only (cheaper price).
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Fistfullofbeer
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Russel could be interesting but he is no more than a bottom pairing D-man. Infact Calgary fans seem to attribute a lot of Hamilton's issues to being paired with Russel and having to carry him on their 2nd pairing.
Not sure about Lovejoy.
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I'd take Russel. If you're talking rentals then he's not a bad guy to improve that third pairing. I'm interested about the comments those Flames fans are making. If true it would mean he can't handle tougher competition.
I don't know if Lovejoy would be enough of an upgrade over Tennyson to justify his cost (however minor).
I don't know if Lovejoy would be enough of an upgrade over Tennyson to justify his cost (however minor).
There is no need to talk about defensive improvements and rentals at the moment. Lovejoy is only an upgrade on the rotating cast of #7's we have, but once Joakim Ryan gets called up that won't even be the case.
Russell would be ok, but there's no reason to depart with assets right now. Let's wait until the deadline.
Russell would be ok, but there's no reason to depart with assets right now. Let's wait until the deadline.
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Is Ryan ready for the show? Don't know anything about him besides his statline in the AHL.
I like the discussion of upgrades just for the sake of spitballing names. I agree however that they should let the team keep playing before spending assets to upgrade.
I like the discussion of upgrades just for the sake of spitballing names. I agree however that they should let the team keep playing before spending assets to upgrade.
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Gilligans Island
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Rental deals are done at the TDL, not after the first quarter of the season. No one above mentioned deals done now. You're assuming we meant now.
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