Incubajerks
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What is wrong with being religious? You sound like a typical communist. I'm sure the Yugoslav flag is still hanging somewhere.
I do not see what's wrong with it.
What is wrong with being religious? You sound like a typical communist. I'm sure the Yugoslav flag is still hanging somewhere.
Parma return to Serie A, massive help from Foggia who earned a point at Frosinone
So religion and nationalism are both bad I see. Yup heard plenty of this garbage during the 80s. I am a proud Catholic who loves his country so I completely understand where your coming from.We can take that up in the closed politics forum if you want.
Based on...? Me being an atheist? LOL.
I was here the whole war, with my entire family. We lost relatives, we lost houses, we had to move.
Doesn't mean that 25 years later I have to live in some bulls*it world filled with resentment and anger, driven by fear of a made-up enemy and hate for anything and anyone that's different.
And you're proving part of my point with that sentence, religion ties in very closely with nationalism.
I don't follow Serie A, but I was born in Parma, OH.....seems I should!
Alessandro Lucarelli is the most loyal man in football - leading Parma from Serie D to Serie A | Daily Mail Online
Parma's captain stayed with them without being paid after they were demoted to Italy's fourth tier - and then kept his promise to lead them back to Serie A, aged 41
So religion and nationalism are both bad I see. Yup heard plenty of this garbage during the 80s. I am a proud Catholic who loves his country so I completely understand where your coming from.
So religion and nationalism are both bad I see. Yup heard plenty of this garbage during the 80s. I am a proud Catholic who loves his country so I completely understand where your coming from.
Organized religion in my country goes hand in hand with right-wing (extremist) nationalism (and in other countries, lets not deny it).
I don't see anything good about nationalism in today's world, no.
I've lived through a war (here, in Croatia, with all my family and relatives) and I daily watch people consumed by hate ruin their lives and unable to enjoy life because of it, 25 years on - and whats worse, most of these weren't actually in the war, they're just fed hate on second hand accounts. Imaginary enemies, assigning blame for everything wrong in their lives to others, etc.
One is to be proud of your country, you don't have to go all right wing about it to be proud. Shockingly, you can be a liberal and love your country without hating on others or abusing human rights.
I want my country to be a bastion of human rights and to prosper economically.
Now, back to topic...
Most, if not all hooligans and ultras, are tied to right wing groups, which in turn are supported by the church. It's not a secret, it's not a mystery.
A lot of the hooligans and ultras, especially among the leaders, are petty criminals, or worse. It's not a secret, it's not a mystery. I mean, I know some of them lol...
As a rule, footballers are less educated and informed. Surrounded by more uneducated and credulous people.
All I was trying to do is to describe circumstances in which a young, uninformed footballer would get carried away by all that.
I'm not excusing Buffon, but just giving a possible explanation why he acted the way he did.
do you have source that hooligans and ultras is supported by the catholic church?
There are crooks in every walk of life. No need to bash the Catholic faith like Corto is doing in this thread.Yeah, nationalism we are seeing in Croatia right now is definitely bad. As for the Church, there are two kinds of believers, those who don't burden others with their beliefs and those who think everyone should bend to their view of the world. The funniest part being that the second group features one of the worst examples of crooks there is.
Your obviously leftist liberal spreading your propaganda over here. Go do you Catholic bashing someplace else.Organized religion in my country goes hand in hand with right-wing (extremist) nationalism (and in other countries, lets not deny it).
I don't see anything good about nationalism in today's world, no.
I've lived through a war (here, in Croatia, with all my family and relatives) and I daily watch people consumed by hate ruin their lives and unable to enjoy life because of it, 25 years on - and whats worse, most of these weren't actually in the war, they're just fed hate on second hand accounts. Imaginary enemies, assigning blame for everything wrong in their lives to others, etc.
One is to be proud of your country, you don't have to go all right wing about it to be proud. Shockingly, you can be a liberal and love your country without hating on others or abusing human rights.
I want my country to be a bastion of human rights and to prosper economically.
Now, back to topic...
Most, if not all hooligans and ultras, are tied to right wing groups, which in turn are supported by the church. It's not a secret, it's not a mystery.
A lot of the hooligans and ultras, especially among the leaders, are petty criminals, or worse. It's not a secret, it's not a mystery. I mean, I know some of them lol...
As a rule, footballers are less educated and informed. Surrounded by more uneducated and credulous people.
All I was trying to do is to describe circumstances in which a young, uninformed footballer would get carried away by all that.
I'm not excusing Buffon, but just giving a possible explanation why he acted the way he did.
Your obviously leftist liberal spreading your propaganda over here. Go do you Catholic bashing someplace else.
You can be whatever you want i don't care just don't come here and spread your bull crap propaganda over here about the Catholic church. As a mod you should not be allowing this.There's nothing wrong with that, I'd wear that as a badge of honor in fact.
Let's end the politics at that.
If you guys want to talk about politics, there's a forum for it.