Pre-Game Talk: SENS @ PENS, Saturday night, 7pm

[Korpse]

Elliot Friedman statement today on the Jeff Marek show... "I've been tracking a stat for a number of years.... If you are 4 or more points back as of Nov 1st, you have a 15% chance of making the playoffs"... Yikes!

The number of teams 4 points out at that point is very small and usually rebuilding teams

 

[Back in Black]

Feel like Karlsson is going to put on a show for this one

He didn’t put on a show when he played us with the sharks.

Or in the pre-season out east.

Karlsson who???

 

[swiftwin]

If DJ goes Pierre will go with him. I can't see it not being a package deal.

You're probably right. Dorion was never going to last beyond the end of the season anyways, since Andlauer/Staios will want to bring in their own people.

I could see Chirelli in an interim role until they bring in the guy they really want (Darche?).

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

So what's our D going to look like for this game?

We lost Zub and looked lost

 

[BankStreetParade]

Yes, apologies, I've corrected it...

Here is what EF points out...

"Elliotte Friedman often mentions the Nov. 1 benchmark: Teams four points (or more) out of the playoffs at that point rarely overcome the deficit. Since 2005-06, 46 of 52 teams (88 per cent) that far out on Nov. 1 ended up missing the playoffs."

I quote this not from Marek today but from a more detailed sportsnet article that expands on his premise... "NHL Team Playoff Hopes Start to Die November"

7 games in and the season's already over? I love how it used to be by Thanksgiving, you needed to be in or around at least the wild card to have a chance. Now if you're 4pts out at the 8 game mark, you're f***ed. How small of a sample size will the next stat require before we can pretty much rule out teams from playoff contention?

 

[bishop12]

How has Norris looked since returning?

 

[MarkStone]

If we lose this, DJ should go.

Why does it all hinge on one game? If the result of this one game is the difference it seems like the decision should already be obvious and it's just delaying the inevitable.

Can easily get someone else to stand behind the bench and roll out the lines tomorrow if the reasoning is that it's the only game between today and next Thursday.

 

[WallyD]

7 games in and the season's already over? I love how it used to be by Thanksgiving, you needed to be in or around at least the wild card to have a chance. Now if you're 4pts out at the 8 game mark, you're f***ed. How small of a sample size will the next stat require before we can pretty much rule out teams from playoff contention?

Statistics, damned statistics! The great thing about them is they represent likelihoods, not certainties. Big difference between declaring something impossible (not said) and observing that over time the odds are not great (12% in this case) for teams in this position. My hope is they adapt, make changes necessary to right the ship. The season is not over, unless they continue to deepen the hole.

 

[mianjo]

No one called up yet and Belleville have a game tonight.

 

[Micklebot]

No one called up yet and Belleville have a game tonight.

Well, we have to put someone on LTIR before we can call anyone up, so maybe that's the holdup?

 

[Golden_Jet]

No one called up yet and Belleville have a game tonight.

Call ups after 5pm, don't count towards today, could be that, and maybe waiting until Chabot goes on LTIR. So probably after tonight's game.

 

[Korpse]

Well, we have to put someone on LTIR before we can call anyone up, so maybe that's the holdup?

Does anyone remember when a new day starts for roster moves? I want to say 5pm, if any moves happen would expect it will happen after then.

 

[Micklebot]

Call ups after 5pm, don't count towards today, could be that, and maybe waiting until Chabot goes on LTIR. So probably after tonight's game.

If we're putting Chabot on LTIR then whether we call them up now or after 5 doesn't matter for the cap, but maybe if we're calling up someone who was waived the 30 day count is what their worried about?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Does anyone remember when a new day starts for roster moves? I want to say 5pm, if any moves happen would expect it will happen after then.

scroll up one post, from yours.

If we're putting Chabot on LTIR then whether we call them up now or after 5 doesn't matter for the cap, but maybe if we're calling up someone who was waived the 30 day count is what their worried about?

Don't think we've hit the 30 day window yet.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

How has Norris looked since returning?

Other than during a powerplay, lost.

 

[Micklebot]

scroll up one post, from yours.


Don't think we've hit the 30 day window yet.

30 days starts when they are on an NHL team, so if we call them up and they stay on the roster for 30 days. we'll need to waive them again to send them back down. If we call them up today vs tomorrow, that's one day closer.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

TBD but Kleven and Matinpalo are not in the BSens lineup

 

[OttawaSenators11]

TBD but Kleven and Matinpalo are not in the BSens lineup

Same with Smejkal

 

[Korpse]

Same with Smejkal

Smejkal was scratched last game, wouldn’t read too much into that one. If a forward was getting called up it would be MacEwan.

 

[Big Muddy]

Elliot Friedman statement today on the Jeff Marek show... "I've been tracking a stat for a number of years.... If you are 4 or more points back as of Nov 1st, you have a 15% chance of making the playoffs"... Yikes!

The season seems like a case of deja-vu. Lots of crappy things happening these days, so I guess no surprise to add the fortunes or misfortune of the team I cheer for to the pile.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Wouldn't be a bad poll to put up here. Incidentally I picked under 6 .. 6-7 might be it
@Pens are a tough one with the recent lost personnel and games Sens Lose
LAK are going to be a tough matchup Sens Lose
TBL are playing better and will have Stamkos back Sens Lose
@TOR Sens Lose
VAN
CAL

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Smejkal was scratched last game, wouldn’t read too much into that one. If a forward was getting called up it would be MacEwan.

I’d hope not he’s garbage, but you could be correct.

 

[bert]

So is Joseph playing D? Are they going with 11 forwards and 5 d?

 

[Tuna99]

If they lose tonight - just can’t see how you sell this to the fans. Like what do you say at this point if they can’t beat mediocre teams?

 

[Snowwy]

So is Joseph playing D? Are they going with 11 forwards and 5 d?

Remember to think about the cap before making anxiety riddled posts like this. Obviously they are waiting for today to. Official make their callups.