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FolignoQuantumLeap

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Is Condon confirmed? Would have gone with Anderson here and Condon on the b2b. Got a better shot of pulling a point or two out of Calgary than Edmonton on no rest. Oh well, Boucher gonna Boucher.
 
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Sens of Anarchy

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Is Condon confirmed? Would have gone with Anderson here and Condon on the b2b. Got a better shot of pulling a point or two out of Calgary than Edmonton on no rest. Oh well, Boucher gonna Boucher.

Could have changed but from what Boucher said yesterday, Anderson was an option, they had not decided.
 

FormentonTheFuture

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Is Condon confirmed? Would have gone with Anderson here and Condon on the b2b. Got a better shot of pulling a point or two out of Calgary than Edmonton on no rest. Oh well, Boucher gonna Boucher.
What is this supposed to mean? There really is no wrong choice here but if you think Calgary is the easier opponent then you might as well start Condon. Your thinking is kind of backwards.
 

Micklebot

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What is this supposed to mean? There really is no wrong choice here but if you think Calgary is the easier opponent then you might as well start Condon. Your thinking is kind of backwards.

Not really, there are advantages to both options.

Starting your backup against an easier opponent might give you equal opportunity against both teams, while starting your starter could be seen as locking down the first 2 pts.

One option maximizes your chances at getting all 4 pts while the other maximizes your chances of not ending up with zero pts. If the goal is to tread water while Karlsson is injured, maximizing your chances of not ending up with zero pts could be seen as preferable.
 

HSF

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Flames coming off a west coast road trip could be a let down game. Good chance to start condon here
 

HSF

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Not really, there are advantages to both options.

Starting your backup against an easier opponent might give you equal opportunity against both teams, while starting your starter could be seen as locking down the first 2 pts.

One option maximizes your chances at getting all 4 pts while the other maximizes your chances of not ending up with zero pts. If the goal is to tread water while Karlsson is injured, maximizing your chances of not ending up with zero pts could be seen as preferable.

Doubt that's how Boucher is thinking
 

BatherSeason

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So, on the off chance that Oduya is ready for the game tonight, who comes out?

Wideman had under 10 mins last game, maybe we give Chabot his spot for a game;

Lines at practice yesterday were like this:

Phaneuf-Boro
Claesson-Ceci
Chabot-Wideman

Do we just swap Wideman out for Oduya?

Please no to Boro-Phaneuf . Hopefully this changes. That is just a potential disaster.
 

DrunkUncleDenis

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What is this supposed to mean? There really is no wrong choice here but if you think Calgary is the easier opponent then you might as well start Condon. Your thinking is kind of backwards.
Well I mean, his argument is perfectly logical. I tend to agree with you though, why not go for wins against both teams instead of already resigning ourselves to a loss vs Edmonton.
 

Micklebot

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So I was thinking it might be nice to win a game by 2 or more goals; can we make that happen tonight please?

Doubt that's how Boucher is thinking
Boucher likely thinks that Condon gives us a chance to win regardless of who we play, and he's probably right. But my point is both strategies have their merits.
 

FormentonTheFuture

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Not really, there are advantages to both options.

Starting your backup against an easier opponent might give you equal opportunity against both teams, while starting your starter could be seen as locking down the first 2 pts.

One option maximizes your chances at getting all 4 pts while the other maximizes your chances of not ending up with zero pts. If the goal is to tread water while Karlsson is injured, maximizing your chances of not ending up with zero pts could be seen as preferable.
DOn't see it that way, but cool. Either way, saying "Boucher gonna Boucher" is quite stupid.
 

DJJones

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#Flames lines today:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lazar
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Jagr
Ferland-Stajan-Brouwer

I'm like a damn prophet haha. Expect to see Monahan and Bennett alternate throughout the game
 

tony d

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I think Calgary's going to be better than Edmonton so I might have went with Anderson tonight and Condon tomorrow but it's no big deal. Should be a good game and I expect us to win 3-1.
 

Micklebot

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Please no to Boro-Phaneuf . Hopefully this changes. That is just a potential disaster.
I'm not sold on that pairing either, but Boro has been playing well this year so who knows. Certainly don't want it as our shutdown pair, but don't see it as any worse than Boro with Wideman.
 

FolignoQuantumLeap

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What is this supposed to mean? There really is no wrong choice here but if you think Calgary is the easier opponent then you might as well start Condon. Your thinking is kind of backwards.
He over coaches. Putting guys on their off side, forcing a 'system' no matter what, not just putting his best players out in crucial situations (see the power play and the shootout).

I see this as another example of this. He's looking ahead to Saturday. Not a fan of the move. It doesn't really matter anyways, it only slightly changes the odds.

I see Boucher's ego being a problem in the long run.
 

thadman

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The Sens are the only remaining team with no powerplay goals scored (for or against).

Who says the Sens play boring hockey????
 

FormentonTheFuture

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He over coaches. Putting guys on their off side, forcing a 'system' no matter what, not just putting his best players out in crucial situations (see the power play and the shootout).

I see this as another example of this. He's looking ahead to Saturday. Not a fan of the move. It doesn't really matter anyways, it only slightly changes the odds.

I see Boucher's ego being a problem in the long run.
Classic Sens fan running a coach out of town. Guy's the best coach we have had in a decade and I trust his judgment and his decisions.

There is no "best player" for shootout by the way. It's random, and every NHL player can score a shootout goal.

Also Anderson is starting so you'll have to backtrack.
 

OvermanKingGainer

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Yea, they can throw any of their d pairs out and be confident.

I mean their 3rd pair d is Stone, and an argument could be made that he would be our 2nd best d :eek:

You give us too much credit. Bartkowski is still the same scrub who couldn't make your team last year. We are benching Kulak for this chump. We lead the NHL in shots against with all the bad momentum swings he takes part in.
 

HSF

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He over coaches. Putting guys on their off side, forcing a 'system' no matter what, not just putting his best players out in crucial situations (see the power play and the shootout).

I see this as another example of this. He's looking ahead to Saturday. Not a fan of the move. It doesn't really matter anyways, it only slightly changes the odds.

I see Boucher's ego being a problem in the long run.

Who are these 'guys' on their offside?
 

FolignoQuantumLeap

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There is no "best player" for shootout by the way. It's random, and every NHL player can score a shootout goal.

And yet the guy who led the team in goals last year scored in the shoot out and the guy who was third scored the winner.

Sure, some guys are specialists like Erik Christiansen or Silverberg but odds are your best goal scorers and most talented offensive players give you the best chance to win a shoot out. Screw off with the Pyatt, Burrows, Neil picks.
 
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FormentonTheFuture

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And yet the guy who led the team in goals last year scored in the shoot out and the guy who was third scored the winner.

Sure, some guys are specialists like Erik Christiansen or Silverberg but odds are your best goal scorers and most talented offensive players give you the best chance to win a shoot out. Screw off with the Pyatt, Burrows, Neil picks.

Disagree. For example Mike Hoffman is bad at shootouts and so are guys like Ovechkin. Their bread and butter is not one on one with a goalie. I'm not saying they can't score, I am saying anyone could score a shootout goal.

I hate shootouts regardless.
 

Rodzilla

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If a D has to come out I hope it's Wideman, he's not very good. I prefered Jaros to be honest.

Like Bondra said, Calgary has a sick D, we'll need tons of speed to create something. I hope the boys are fresh for this one.
 

CycloneSweep

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I think Calgary's going to be better than Edmonton so I might have went with Anderson tonight and Condon tomorrow but it's no big deal. Should be a good game and I expect us to win 3-1.
Oilers fan chiming in, probably.
Draisaitl is now out as well. Last season whenver the Oilers had a break this long or longer we would come out and completely stink up the rink.
 

Micklebot

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Disagree. For example Mike Hoffman is bad at shootouts and so are guys like Ovechkin. Their bread and butter is not one on one with a goalie. I'm not saying they can't score, I am saying anyone could score a shootout goal.

I hate shootouts regardless.

I just find it so odd that a guy like Hoffman who in game can beat a goalie clean with just his shot, can't do the same in a shootout situation, while Turris seems to be perfectly able to beat goalies with his shot in shootouts.

It's also worth pointing out that shootout records can flip pretty quickly with a streak; for most guys three straight shootout goals would skyrocket their overall record.
 
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