Rumor: Senators have given interested teams permission to discuss contract with Karlsson.

[Sensung]

I get the sense that Tampa and Dallas are the only 2 teams he's made a formal decision to re-sign with, or maybe it's just Tampa. Everyone else is dealing with 1 year of EK.

Based on what, your hopes and dreams?

 

[Super Cake]

 

[CupInSIX]

Based on what, your hopes and dreams?

based on Elliotte Friedman's latest comments, smartypants.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

This is absolutely brutal for Yzerman. New contracts and NMCs are killing him here. If this is true, how rare is it that a generational player wants to be specifically traded and extended on your team??? Wow.

 

[HanSolo]

Senators are such a ****ing joke.

The ONLY comparable to your star defensemen just got $11 million (from a team hes won two cups with i.e has incentive to stay with) and you offer him TEN? What on earth would posses Melnyk to do that.... its like he WANTS Karlsson to leave and for him to completely sewer his franchise for the next decade.

Reminds me of the times Dollar Bill was running the Blackhawks...

How can anyone not view that offer as a "hey guys, look, we tried. He didn't want what we offered him. So we had to move him." type move?

 

[Aoko]

If the package starts with Sergachev, it's going to need a lot of other pieces to get it done.

I figured we would do something along the lines of:

- Choice of Sergachev / Foote (top prospect)
- Taylor Raddysh (top 5 prospect) if you choose Sergachev / Yanni Gourde if you choose Foote
- Choice of Johnson / Palat
- 2020 first round pick

It's more than what the Golden Nuggets have offered.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Senators are such a ****ing joke.

The ONLY comparable to your star defensemen just got $11 million (from a team hes won two cups with i.e has incentive to stay with) and you offer him TEN? What on earth would posses Melnyk to do that.... its like he WANTS Karlsson to leave and for him to completely sewer his franchise for the next decade.

Reminds me of the times Dollar Bill was running the Blackhawks...

Melnyk never intended on retaining Karlsson. Him and Dorion promised season ticket holders at a town hall meeting that they will make Karlsson an offer on July 1st to save face (even though they could have done it anytime last month). The offer was never intended to be a serious one. It was just so they could tell fans they tried and EK didn’t want to stay. That’s all it is.

If there was any genuine interest to keep him, this would have been done at the draft. It’s a PR move, nothing more.

 

[Fro]

I don't see TJ9 waiving for OTT, that needed to happen before sunday

 

[Emerica]

Like getting flamed.

NYI:

Karlsson(with extension)
Duchene(with extension)

Ottawa:

Lee
Pulock
Beauvillier
2019 1st
Greiss

Lmao.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I figured we would do something along the lines of:

- Choice of Sergachev / Foote (top prospect)
- Taylor Raddysh (top 5 prospect) if you choose Sergachev / Yanni Gourde if you choose Foote
- Choice of Johnson / Palat
- 2020 first round pick

It's more than what the Golden Nuggets have offered.

I’d do this.

 

[KPower]

Teams low balling Dorion as expected.

Temper your expectations Sens fans.

This is going to drag on.

 

[Aoko]

I don't see TJ9 waiving for OTT, that needed to happen before sunday

He might. If we keep to our current roster, he's on our third line. He won't see the minutes that he has in the past and has thrived off. Whereas in Ottawa he can probably get back to his game and thrive with all the minutes they would give him. Palat also has a NTC, and I think it's more unlikely he would waive it for Ottawa.

 

[JayMan82]

This is absolutely brutal for Yzerman. New contracts and NMCs are killing him here. If this is true, how rare is it that a generational player wants to be specifically traded and extended on your team??? Wow.

Karlsson >>> McDonagh, I’m still shocked (even as a beneficiary from the trade) that Yzerman didn’t pony up at deadline.

 

[KPower]

He might. If we keep to our current roster, he's on our third line. He won't see the minutes that he has in the past and has thrived off. Whereas in Ottawa he can probably get back to his game and thrive with all the minutes they would give him. Palat also has a NTC, and I think it's more unlikely he would waive it for Ottawa.

He'd sit in the pressbox before he'd waive for Ottawa.

 

[Voight]

How can anyone not view that offer as a "hey guys, look, we tried. He didn't want what we offered him. So we had to move him." type move?

Because his value is clearly more than what they offered. They know that. There is 0 incentive to take less that what Doughty got.

He might. If we keep to our current roster, he's on our third line. He won't see the minutes that he has in the past and has thrived off. Whereas in Ottawa he can probably get back to his game and thrive with all the minutes they would give him. Palat also has a NTC, and I think it's more unlikely he would waive it for Ottawa.

Johnson probably wants to stay with the team thats a top cup contender, not the one thats a top 1st overall contender.

 

[KPower]

Karlsson >>> McDonagh, I’m still shocked (even as a beneficiary from the trade) that Yzerman didn’t pony up at deadline.

Price was way too high, SY is no fool.

 

[God King Fudge]

So frustrating to see as a TB fan. He wants to be here. Make it happen Yzerman. Do what you need to do and do it now.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Like getting flamed.

NYI:

Karlsson(with extension)
Duchene(with extension)

Ottawa:

Lee
Pulock
Beauvillier
2019 1st
Greiss

I think Ottawa needs to add here

 

[JayMan82]

Price was way too high, SY is no fool.

Seeing the scoring issues TB had in the playoffs, it would have been worth the price. McDonagh vs. Karlsson is like partially in vs all in and I truly believe it was the difference between cup and no cup.

 

[These Are The Days]

I'm so frustrated for the Senators fans. I swear on everything holy if he comes here I'll meet one of you guys at Amalie if you make the trip down and if I'm not broke the drinks are on me and we'll talk about the great years for both our clubs

 

[robertocarlos]

EK has to decide if he wants money or a Cup. At least for the one year. i think he should come to Winnipeg for one year in exchange for Trouba. Mel saves $6 million and the fans barely notice the team has changed.

 

[JoemAvs]

So frustrating to see as a TB fan. He wants to be here. Make it happen Yzerman. Do what you need to do and do it now.

Yzerman has been an amazing GM over the last 5 years. He is killing it in the draft and making solid trades.

But the one thing he might be worst in the league right now at is dishing out NTC/NMCs..
And that is coming back to haunt him bigtime right now. And rightfully so.

Why on earth did he dish them out like candy to second tier guys like TyJo, Killorn (yikes) and to a lesser extent Palat when your farm is bursting at the seams? That as well as Callahan still having his in place as well is probably killing him right now.

Will never understand that.

Also don't quite get why he got (and extended) McDonagh when Karlsson clearly was the better fit and clearly really, really wanted to end up with the Lightning.

Looks like no one is perfect....


The only way Dallas gets Karlsson without giving up Heiskanen is if Dorion really, really, really screwed up once again by allowing him to talk extension with multiple teams which backfired when EK afterwards told Pierre that he will extend with Tampa, Dallas and no one else. At which point Ottawa is probably completely screwed.

Which given history would not even surprise me that much.

 

[Seven0two]

Well he has an offer on the table from the team that beat WPG right now. Why wouldn’t that be an option and a chance for the Cup?

 

[Brownies]

If I was Dorion I'd let the media do the dirty work for me and throw false rumors left and right of teams making crazy offers. A team will crack at some point, Karlsson is too good.

 

[robertocarlos]

Well he has an offer on the table from the team that beat WPG right now. Why wouldn’t that be an option and a chance for the Cup?

It's not what he likes, it's what Dorion and Mel like. OK Jets will throw in some picks and a Petan or Dano.