Prospect Info: Senators 2015 Development Camp

[Smitty26]

sure its frustrating for NHL clubs, but come on....the CHL needs to protect itself a little

bit from having all the talent poached ASAP. Its fine the way it is, lets the very talented

players who are too good for CHL but maybe not good enough for the NHL yet, get

extra chances at a memorial cup. 9/10 they get traded in their last eligible year if the

team isn't going to make the playoffs so its not like you have to worry about the player

being on a crap team and losing development.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I think the 'best of both worlds' scenario would be to allow each AHL team to have one 19-year-old on the roster.....but only if the kid has a minimum of 2 years played in the CHL, NCAA or equivalent European leagues.

That way, the kids who are obviously beyond the CHL level but below the NHL (like Lazar last year) an get that one year in the A, while at the same time making sure the CHL isn't drained of their talent. After all, it would be an absolute maximum of 30 kids, and not all of them would be from the CHL....that's if all 30 NHL teams use it (some teams may not even have a kid that qualifies).

18-19 year olds can play in the AHL, there's no specific rule against it generally. The agreement is between the AHL - CHL. Players drafted out of CHL can't play on AHL teams until they've played 4 years junior, are 20 years old by Dec 31st, or their junior teams are done for the year. This doesn't apply to to European leagues or USHL etc. Just OHL, WHL and the QMJHL. That's why Zibanejad could go and not Lazar.

 

[Lenny the Lynx]

sure its frustrating for NHL clubs, but come on....the CHL needs to protect itself a little

bit from having all the talent poached ASAP. Its fine the way it is, lets the very talented

players who are too good for CHL but maybe not good enough for the NHL yet, get

extra chances at a memorial cup. 9/10 they get traded in their last eligible year if the

team isn't going to make the playoffs so its not like you have to worry about the player

being on a crap team and losing development.

Is this a haiku?

 

[Smitty26]

Is this a haiku?

haha I wish I was that talented!

no, I spaced it our cause I forgot my glasses today and could barely read it when it was all very close together haha

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

Is this a haiku?

Smitty is using one of these..

 

[Bojovnik]

The CHL offers nothing to players already established in professional European leagues, IMO. I think for players joining at age 17, it is a potentially good development route, but not post-draft.

 

[playasRus]

Is there a reason Prince isn't at camp? Is it because of the lack of a contract?

Edit: Saw it's because his ELC is over.

 

[Benjamin]

Its interesting how Austin Matthews is going to play in Switzerland instead of college.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Its interesting how Austin Matthews is going to play in Switzerland instead of college.

Is that a recent development? I had read he can't get a work visa for it.

 

[Benjamin]

Is that a recent development? I had read he can't get a work visa for it.

Nope. I haven't read anything on it recently. Still, the idea of it happening is interesting.

 

[BonkTastic]

Is this a haiku?

C.H.L. keeps it's
best players from adult leagues,
and wins them titles.

 

[BonkTastic]

Is that a recent development? I had read he can't get a work visa for it.

Nope. I haven't read anything on it recently. Still, the idea of it happening is interesting.

As of June 29th
- Report: Work permit issues could keep Auston Matthews in North America next season

According to Pete Judge of ISS, Matthews likely won’t be able to play in Switzerland due to work permit issues. Judge reported on Twitter Sunday that the 17-year-old is having troubles getting a visa because he’s never played professionally before.

 

[Smitty26]

C.H.L. keeps it's
best players from adult leagues,
and wins them titles.

amazing.....elegant....

 

[Lenny the Lynx]

The CHL offers nothing to players already established in professional European leagues, IMO. I think for players joining at age 17, it is a potentially good development route, but not post-draft.

Obviously there are a lot of good players coming out of other leagues, so I think people overstate it that every single player from Europe would benefit from CHL time.

I think it depends on the player and what holes they might have in their game.
Lindberg seemed to benefit from playing in a bit more structured league, and from getting more icetime than he would have in Sweden, and it worked out pretty well for him.

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

Obviously there are a lot of good players coming out of other leagues, so I think people overstate it that every single player from Europe would benefit from CHL time.

I think it depends on the player and what holes they might have in their game.
Lindberg seemed to benefit from playing in a bit more structured league, and from getting more icetime than he would have in Sweden, and it worked out pretty well for him.

I agree. A guy like Lindberg, and before him, Landeskog, play a certain style that gets to showcase how well they like the physical play and can thrive with the smaller rinks. It made a lot of sense.

For players less physically developed, but with high end skills, it can often be better to play in a men's league in Europe on the bigger ice until they get a bit stronger and fill out. CHL can turn into a gong show at times, which is tough on the slighter framed Europeans who aren't used to handling that type of thing.

 

[operasen]

Its interesting how Austin Matthews is going to play in Switzerland instead of college.

Rooming with BonkTastic until the Work Permits are finalized?

 

[BonkTastic]

Rooming with BonkTastic until the Work Permits are finalized?

I'd billet him for sure, assuming he wanted to play with Geneva or Lausanne.

 

[usascout1]

1 and done seems pretty likely, like you said 2 years maX

One and done. Slim chance he stays 2 yrs.

 

[Senateurs]

When I saw they were running a spartan race I was thinking someone will probably get hurt.

Did the Spartan Sprint on Sunday. I saw some picture here and there but I'd like to see how the rookies did compared to the winners 5 km in 35 mins.