Second best team in the west

Who is going to be the second best team in the west this season

  • Minnesota Wild

  • St. Louis Blues

  • Edmonton Oilers

  • Calgary Flames

  • Vegas Golden Knights

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Raccoon Jesus

Todd McLellan is an inside agent
Oct 30, 2008
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St. Louis is the safe bet for me.

But I find it hard to bet against new-gear McDavid, Calgary's refinish is interesting, and I think Logan Thompson is this year's "where did HE come from" goalie to go along with a healthy and settled Eichel.
 
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Raccoon Jesus

Todd McLellan is an inside agent
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I wouldn’t have the confidence to lay money on it 2-5. But I think these will be your playoff teams.

Avs
Blues
Flames
Oilers
Kings
Wild
Vegas
Dallas
________
Nashville
Vancouver
__________
Not playoff material
Winnipeg
Seattle
Anaheim
San jose
Arizona
Chicago

Only a slight tweak for me--

Avs
Blues
Vegas
Wild
Oilers
---
Flames
Kings
Dallas
Nashville
Vancouver
 
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Muffin

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Aug 14, 2009
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Actually he was pretty good the season before too. He had a bad stretch in Toronto yes but also had a rib injury, before that he was being hyped for the Vezina here. He doesn't need to win the Vezina here, just be better than Koskinen for one.
Campbell behind the Toronto defense put up worse numbers than Smith in the regular season and playoffs behind the Edmonton defense.

Perron is a much bigger loss to St Louis than people realize. St Louis wasn't a great 5 on 5 team last year and lived off of their PP which Perron was a huge part of.

My pick is Calgary, they were supposed to make the conference finals last year if Markstrom didn't implode.
 
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PROUD PAPA

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It's a good question.
I voted St. Louis but Vegas rebounding is a genuine possibility.
 
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Connor McConnor

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Campbell behind the Toronto defense put up worse numbers than Smith in the regular season and playoffs behind the Edmonton defense.

Perron is a much bigger loss to St Louis than people realize. St Louis wasn't a great 5 on 5 team last year and lived off of their PP which Perron was a huge part of.

My pick is Calgary, they were supposed to make the conference finals last year if Markstrom didn't implode.
Calgary loses in 5 with Drai and Nurse playing on one leg but yeah, Calgary lost because of Markstrom lmao. Stay delusional, Muffin man.

You're also factually incorrect, Campbell had better stats in the RS and so far over his career than Smith.

A Campbell/Skinner combo is a lot better than Smith/Koskinen. Colorado is one team that should know you don't need elite goaltending to go far.
 

Muffin

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Calgary loses in 5 with Drai and Nurse playing on one leg but yeah, Calgary lost because of Markstrom lmao. Stay delusional, Muffin man.

You're also factually incorrect, Campbell had better stats in the RS and so far over his career than Smith.

A Campbell/Skinner combo is a lot better than Smith/Koskinen. Colorado is one team that should know you don't need elite goaltending to go far.
Calgary lost to Edmonton because of Markstrom, why would I be delusional I literally have no horse in that race lmao. I do think if Markstrom played like he did against Dallas, Calgary would've at least taken one game against Colorado.

Campbell was worse than Smith last season in both the regular season and playoffs. He was the full time starter for the first time last season.

Colorado can win without elite goaltending because they have the best defense in the league. Where's Edmonton's Makar and Toews? Good luck with Campbell with that defense I guess?
 
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Connor McConnor

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Calgary lost to Edmonton because of Markstrom, why would I be delusional I literally have no horse in that race lmao. I do think if Markstrom played like he did against Dallas, Calgary would've at least taken one game against Colorado.
Except you do have a horse in the race, you "proudly" post your location of Edmonton because that gives you the license to come into every single Oiler thread and talk shit. Calgary lost because their team couldn't handle Edmonton's offense even with Smith gifting them 4+ goals a game.

But yes, only one team dealt with poor goaltending, let alone significant injuries.

Edmonton easily could have won 2-3 games against the Avs and we actually saw those games play out, not some hypothetical you've produced. 3/4 of the games were 1 goal differences.
 

Muffin

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Except you do have a horse in the race, you "proudly" post your location of Edmonton because that gives you the license to come into every single Oiler thread and talk shit. Calgary lost because their team couldn't handle Edmonton's offense even with Smith gifting them 4+ goals a game.

But yes, only one team dealt with poor goaltending, let alone significant injuries.

Edmonton easily could have won 2-3 games against the Avs and we actually saw those games play out, not some hypothetical you've produced. 3/4 of the games were 1 goal differences.
You realize the irony in that right lmao? The actual games that played out was a sweep, the hypothecia scenario you produced was them actually winning a game.

Absolutely hilarious you think they could've won 2-3 games considering the one game they made it to OT was the game they led by 2 goals in the third period.
 
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CantHaveTkachev

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Calgary lost to Edmonton because of Markstrom, why would I be delusional I literally have no horse in that race lmao. I do think if Markstrom played like he did against Dallas, Calgary would've at least taken one game against Colorado.

Campbell was worse than Smith last season in both the regular season and playoffs. He was the full time starter for the first time last season.

Colorado can win without elite goaltending because they have the best defense in the league. Where's Edmonton's Makar and Toews? Good luck with Campbell with that defense I guess?
huh? Smith was injured most of the year and literally gifted the Kings a win in Game 1 and tried to gift the Flames a win in Game 4

Oilers had to outscore Smith most of the playoffs
 

Muffin

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huh? Smith was injured most of the year and literally gifted the Kings a win in Game 1 and tried to gift the Flames a win in Game 4

Oilers had to outscore Smith most of the playoffs
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grewalwings

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Colorado
Edmonton
St. Louis
Calgary

I have St. Louis at 3rd because really didn't do much to improve this offseason, and they lost one of their best powerplay performers in Perron.
 

Machinehead

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Jan 21, 2011
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I would say Calgary. People are writing them off just because they ran into McDavid on a nearly 3-PPG run.
 

Three On Zero

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Has to be St Louis, likely comes down to this

Colorado
St Louis
Calgary
Edmonton
 

McJedi

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Except you do have a horse in the race, you "proudly" post your location of Edmonton because that gives you the license to come into every single Oiler thread and talk shit. Calgary lost because their team couldn't handle Edmonton's offense even with Smith gifting them 4+ goals a game.

But yes, only one team dealt with poor goaltending, let alone significant injuries.

Edmonton easily could have won 2-3 games against the Avs and we actually saw those games play out, not some hypothetical you've produced. 3/4 of the games were 1 goal differences.
As impressive as Edmonton’s demolition of Calgary was. Edmonton got hammered by the Avs. That series wasn’t even close. And included that POS Kane taking out our 2C with a dirty hit causing him to miss 2 of the 4 games and Avs had to play a man down in the third game when Kane was somehow not ejected for his goon play.
 

Volica

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Outside of a 3 month Vezina worthy run last season, Campbell has been wildly up and down his whole career as well. He seems mentally fragile and his highs are high and his lows are very low. He should be an upgrade but there’s now guarantee. Leafs are a better overall team than the oilers and better defensively. Who knows he might win the Vezina but I doubt it. With the city change it’s pretty much out of the frying pan and into the fire. Media still going to be tough especially with the Expectation for Mcdavid and the oilers to do well.

Edmonton Media is an easy one to overcome, he’ll be fine. Lots of levelheaded, well thought out media and fans up there.
 

BlueDream

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The Oilers win percentage under Woodcroft was pretty sky high last year and the guy didn't even have a training camp or even a full practise before being thrown into games, lol.

.724% win percentage under Jay Woodcroft

Colorado under Bednar: .726% win percentage
Flames under Sutter: .677% win percentage
Blues under Berube .665% win percentage
Good to see you have no clue what sample sizes are.
 
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Soundwave

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Good to see you have no clue what sample sizes are.

Yeah then he just coached them to a Conference Finals with a badly injured Draisaitl and Nurse.

The lengths this board will go to give no credit to anyone on the Oilers other than McDavid really gets lame. If Boudreau got Vancouver in to the playoffs and to the Conference Final with a badly injured Miller and Hughes the circle jerk here about it being an unbelievable coaching job would be through the roof lol.
 
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