Salary Cap: Salary Cap & Roster Building - Locked in until July

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ColePens

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Mar 27, 2008
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All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.
2017-18 salary ceiling$75,000,000
Projected dollars committed
74,780,035​
Projected LTIR Used
84,259​
Approximate Cap Space
$304,224
Roster Size
24​
Contracts
46/50​
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PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward..................................
Pos.
Age
..........2017-18
..........2018-19
..........2019-20
Evgeni Malkin
C​
31​
9,500,000​
9,500,000​
9,500,000​
Sidney Crosby
C​
30​
8,700,000​
8,700,000​
8,700,000​
Phil Kessel
RW​
29​
6,800,000​
6,800,000​
6,800,000​
Patric Hornqvist
RW​
30​
4,250,000​
UFA
Carl Hagelin
LW​
29​
4,000,000​
4,000,000​
UFA
Conor Sheary
LW​
25​
3,000,000​
3,000,000​
3,000,000​
Derick Brassard
C​
30​
3,000,000​
3,000,000​
UFA
Riley Sheahan
C​
25​
2,075,000​
RFA
Zach Aston-Reese
LW​
23​
925,000​
925,000​
RFA
Jake Guentzel
LW​
22​
734,167​
734,167​
RFA
Dominik Simon
C/RW​
23​
692,500​
RFA
Bryan Rust
RW​
25​
640,000​
RFA
Tom Kuhnhackl
LW​
25​
625,000​
RFA
Carter Rowney
C​
28​
612,500​
UFA
Defense
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Kris Letang
D​
30​
7,250,000​
7,250,000​
7,250,000​
Justin Schultz
D​
27​
5,500,000​
5,500,000​
5,500,000​
Brian Dumoulin
D​
26​
4,100,000​
4,100,000​
4,100,000​
Olli Maatta
D​
23​
4,083,333​
4,083,333​
4,083,333​
Matt Hunwick
D​
32​
2,250,000​
2,250,000​
2,250,000​
Jamie Oleksiak
D​
25​
964,688​
RFA
Chad Ruhwedel
D​
27​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Goalie
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Matt Murray
G​
23​
3,750,000​
3,750,000​
3,750,000​
Tristan Jarry
G​
22​
630,833​
RFA
Casey DeSmith
G​
25​
675,000​
675,000​
UFA
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Non-Roster Players
Forward..................................
Pos.
Age
..........2017-18
..........2018-19
..........2019-20
Adam Johnson
C​
23​
925,000​
925,000​
RFA
Josh Jooris
C​
27​
775,000​
UFA
Thomas Di Pauli
C​
23​
742,500​
RFA
Freddie Tiffels
LW​
22​
742,500​
742,500​
RFA
Sam Miletic
LW​
20​
710,000​
710,000​
710,000​
Teddy Blueger
C​
23​
705,000​
RFA
Tobias Lindberg
LW​
22​
693,333​
RFA
Daniel Sprong
RW​
20​
692,500​
RFA
Jean-Sebastien Dea
C​
23​
650,000​
RFA
Garrett Wilson
LW​
24​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Greg McKegg
C​
25​
650,000​
RFA
Tom Sestito
LW​
29​
650,000​
UFA
Defense
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Andrey Pedan
D​
24​
750,000​
RFA
Jeff Taylor
D​
23​
742,500​
742,500​
RFA
Ethan Prow
D​
24​
730,000​
RFA
Lukas Bengtsson
D​
24​
705,000​
RFA
Frank Corrado
D​
24​
650,000​
RFA
Jarred Tinordi
D​
25​
650,000​
RFA
Zach Trotman
D​
27​
650,000​
UFA
Kevin Czuczman
D​
26​
650,000​
UFA
Chris Summers
D​
29​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Goalie
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Michael Leighton
G​
36​
650,000​
UFA
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SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current team
Contract
Alex D'Orio
G​
18​
Saint John (QMJHL)​
3 years/716,667 per​
Jordy Bellerive
C​
18​
Lethbridge (WHL)​
3 years/716,667 per​
Sam Lafferty
F​
22​
W-B/S ATO​
2 years/925,000 per​
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UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player
Pos.
Age
Current team
Niclas Almari
D​
19​
HPK (Liiga)
Anthony Angello
F​
21​
Cornell (ECAC)
Dane Birks
D​
21​
Michigan Tech (WCHA)
Kasper Bjorkqvist
F​
19​
Providence (HEA)
Jan Drozg
F​
18​
Shawinigan (QMJHL)
Connor Hall
D​
19​
Kitchener (OHL)
Ryan Jones
D​
21​
Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)
Zachary Lauzon
D​
18​
Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)
Joe Masonius
D​
20​
Connecticut (HEA)
Linus Olund
F​
20​
Brynas IF (SHL)
Antti Palojarvi
D​
18​
Lukko U20 (SML Jr.A)
Nikita Pavlychev
F​
20​
Penn State (Big Ten)
Clayton Phillips
D​
17​
Fargo (USHL)
Will Reilly
D​
19​
RPI (ECAC)
Dominik Uher
C​
24​
HC Sparta Praha (ELH)
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Shaffer

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Around 8-9m in cap space if cap increases to 78m next year with Rust, Oleksiak, Sheahan, Jarry, Sprong, Simon, and Kuhnhackl as RFA's. Gotta think that Sheary is gone.
 

pistolpete11

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Around 8-9m in cap space if cap increases to 78m next year with Rust, Oleksiak, Sheahan, Jarry, Sprong, Simon, and Kuhnhackl as RFA's. Gotta think that Sheary is gone.
What are Sprong's and Simon's status as far as waivers? Could either be signed and sent to the AHL?

Also, crossing my fingers for a cap of $80+
 

Randy Butternubs

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Rakell67

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Really wished we had signed Kunitz and traded Sheary over the summer while not signing Hunwick and kept Cole at the TD.
 
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cygnus47

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What a crap effort. Didn't take the game seriously enough, didn't get any details right. PP was crap. You can't put in 10 minutes of effort and expect to win. Giving away a chance at the division playing like this. Sheary was terrible, Kessel was never in the game and DeSmith didn't look good on any of the goals. Brassard didn't have a great game but can be forgiven for that. 4th line was hot garbage.

Guentzel and Rust had good games and that was about it.
 

Andy99

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If I trusted Sullivan to only play him on the fourth, then I'd agree. Kunitz needed to leave for the team's welfare because Sully can't help himself.

It's not just Sullivan. Cooper's been playing him up the lineup too. They must watch him hit someone against the boards and swoon. But I agree that we could use some of his jam right now....
 

Riptide

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Dec 29, 2011
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So TOI. The 4th line didn't play enough - not even close.
Sheahan: 9:47, 2:04 in the 3rd
Kuhnhackl: 4:31, 0:30 in the 3rd
Rowney: 4:01, 0:30 in the 3rd

Kessel 22:45
Brassard: 16:58
Malkin: 20:51
Hornqvist: 19:01
Crosby: 21:09

Now, I don't give a shit about Rowney getting 4 minutes, or even Kuhnhackl getting 4.5. But if you look at the 15/16 POs where we dominated teams... our 4th line was playing 11 minutes a night. And that held true for every single series. Sure, I get it... our 4th line then was Kuhnhackl, Cullen and Rust. Doesn't matter. Injuries changed things slightly in 16/17, but mostly the same thing - those guys all played, and other than the fill-in's, they played 10 minutes a game. Vs NSH, Rowney averaged 17 shifts a game. Him and Kuhn played 7 tonight.

My point here is that if you want to be playing fast... you need fresh legs that can constantly jump all over the other team and smother them. And for that to happen, your 4th line needs to play more than 3 shifts in 2 periods. If Rowney can't be trusted to play more than 1 shift in the 3rd and 2 shifts in the 2nd... scratch him and dress Jooris. Or f***, call up Sprong if you're only going to play them 5 minutes - pretty sure he can do that. But this needs to change.
 

Riptide

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They should both be on the roster for next year, if not traded.

Looking forward.

Well, seeing how they'd be exposed to waivers next Oct... something will change.
DeSmith is done after the season. Jarry has 2 seasons. ZAR has 3 seasons or 60 NHL games. For that reason, I'd give DeSmith the backup job next season and just give Jarry some games when someone is hurt. But lets try to keep both of these guys for another season or two, given how cheap they will be.

Guentzel - Crosby - Rust (RFA)
Hagelin - Malkin - Hornqvist
Sheary - Brassard - Kessel
Kuhn/ZAR - Sheahan - Sprong

I think DB/JG is going to have to PK next season. Sign someone like Jooris to be the 13/14F. But we need speed, and we need to actually be playing these guys. I get that we all dislike Rowney... but 4 minutes is absurd. Either play the line, if only so the others can be fresh and actually skate... or dress someone you will play.

And if those lines don't do it for you... start mixing and matching. Honestly, I don't care how they end up. Find something that works, and something that the minutes can be spread out.

ZAR - Crosby - Sprong
Guentzel - Malkin - Hornqvist
Hagelin - Brassard - Kessel
Sheary/Simon - Sheahan - Rust
 

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What kills me with L4 is that Sullivan is doing it deliberately and he clearly doesn’t trust the crap he keeps playing. Sheahan is a 3C, ZAR is a rookie who has been on quite a tear, Sheary is a guy who just had a very productive season but, and I’ll argue this for a long time, is being misused and they have someone like Simon who is having a good start to his career or Sprong or anyone else in WBS. This in no way has to be some garbage 4th line. This shit is worse than when Bylsma did it.

Guentzel-crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-malkin-Rust
ZAR-brassard-Kessel
Sheary/Simon-Sheahan-Jooris? His precious Kuhnhackl can even be tried here.

I’ll take ZAR-Sheahan-Sheary, too.
 
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Honour Over Glory

Fire Sully
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We stink with Kuhn and Rowney in the line-up.

Please kindly run into the boards at full speed and be on IR forever.
 

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Fire Sully
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What kills me with L4 is that Sullivan is doing it deliberately and he clearly doesn’t trust the crap he keeps playing. Sheahan is a 3C, ZAR is a rookie who has been on quite a tear, Sheary is a guy who just had a very productive season but, and I’ll argue this for a long time, is being misused and they have someone like Simon who is having a good start to his career or Sprong or anyone else in WBS. This in no way has to be some garbage 4th line. This **** is worse than when Bylsma did it.

Guentzel-crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-malkin-Rust
ZAR-brassard-Kessel
Sheary/Simon-Sheahan-Jooris? His precious Kuhnhackl can even be tried here.

I’ll take ZAR-Sheahan-Sheary, too.

Yeah, I've been thinking for a while now that Tocchet was a huge part in helping Sullivan with the line-up, Recchi is a yes man, all he's done is enable the moronic line juggling.

I'd hope for the following:

Guentzel, Crosby, Sheary/Simon
Rust, Malkin, Hornqvist
Hagelin, Brassard, Kessel
Aston-Reese, Sheahan, Simon/Sheary
 

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Yeah, I've been thinking for a while now that Tocchet was a huge part in helping Sullivan with the line-up, Recchi is a yes man, all he's done is enable the moronic line juggling.

I'd hope for the following:

Guentzel, Crosby, Sheary/Simon
Rust, Malkin, Hornqvist
Hagelin, Brassard, Kessel
Aston-Reese, Sheahan, Simon/Sheary

I’m not big in those lines but I have wondered about Tocchet’s departure. I’m not sure he’s great at lines but I think it’s very possible that they had a certain synergy going on. For all we know the line juggling is influenced and genuinely encouraged by Recchi.
 

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Fire Sully
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I’m not big in those lines but I have wondered about Tocchet’s departure. I’m not sure he’s great at lines but I think it’s very possible that they had a certain synergy going on. For all we know the line juggling is influenced and genuinely encouraged by Recchi.

What would be the issue with the line-up? Shift a few guys around and you get a better balance, Sullivan has an epic issue with that, he rides hot streaks and then looks like a genius for it, but then it goes cold and he has no answers and is just clueless with what to do with his line-up. I'm not worried about other teams beating us, I'm worried about our own team beating themselves by not maximizing the potential it has. And let's be real, the potential is massive.

You have a mixture of what you need, it's a matter of Sullivan understanding patience, now is NOT the time to suddenly get antsy and just juggle the shit out of everything. But if it needs it, sure, but it should make some sense.

Many teams win without plugs like Kuhn and Rowney in the line-up, Sullivan has no excuse there, they are not elite at what they do in any shape or form.

Rust's issue on the left side is that he's not as good defensively there, but he's still a very good puck hound on the left side and he gets interesting looks there for a shot, I think he might actually be better as the LW on the Brassard line. ZAR should be in the line-up and either with Sid or Sheahan.

Guentzel, Crosby, Aston-Reese
Hagelin, Malkin, Hornqvist
Rust, Brassard, Kessel
Sheary, Sheahan, Simon

Or

Simon, Brassard, Kessel
Sheary, Sheahan, Rust
 

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Fire Sully
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Really wished we had signed Kunitz and traded Sheary over the summer while not signing Hunwick and kept Cole at the TD.
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What would be the issue with the line-up? Shift a few guys around and you get a better balance, Sullivan has an epic issue with that, he rides hot streaks and then looks like a genius for it, but then it goes cold and he has no answers and is just clueless with what to do with his line-up. I'm not worried about other teams beating us, I'm worried about our own team beating themselves by not maximizing the potential it has. And let's be real, the potential is massive.

You have a mixture of what you need, it's a matter of Sullivan understanding patience, now is NOT the time to suddenly get antsy and just juggle the **** out of everything. But if it needs it, sure, but it should make some sense.

Many teams win without plugs like Kuhn and Rowney in the line-up, Sullivan has no excuse there, they are not elite at what they do in any shape or form.

Rust's issue on the left side is that he's not as good defensively there, but he's still a very good puck hound on the left side and he gets interesting looks there for a shot, I think he might actually be better as the LW on the Brassard line. ZAR should be in the line-up and either with Sid or Sheahan.

Guentzel, Crosby, Aston-Reese
Hagelin, Malkin, Hornqvist
Rust, Brassard, Kessel
Sheary, Sheahan, Simon

Or

Simon, Brassard, Kessel
Sheary, Sheahan, Rust

It was mainly Sheary with Guentzel. It also prefer rust on the right and Sheary on the left but I’ll take Sheary on the right where he’s the skilled winger on the line. I’d be inclined to question Simon and Guentzel on a line together, too. The same goes for Sheary and Simon.

Sullivan seems to have a tendency of wanting to force certain things to work. Crosby-Rust, Malkin-Hornqvist and now Guentzel/Sheary-

Part of the problem with his juggling right now is that he’s playing two “pk specialists” who can’t be part of that. He’s shuffling 9 or 10 forwards around while the mix is sacrificed to the human shield and the knockoff human shield.
 

Honour Over Glory

Fire Sully
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It was mainly Sheary with Guentzel. It also prefer rust on the right and Sheary on the left but I’ll take Sheary on the right where he’s the skilled winger on the line. I’d be inclined to question Simon and Guentzel on a line together, too. The same goes for Sheary and Simon.

Sullivan seems to have a tendency of wanting to force certain things to work. Crosby-Rust, Malkin-Hornqvist and now Guentzel/Sheary-

Part of the problem with his juggling right now is that he’s playing two “pk specialists” who can’t be part of that. He’s shuffling 9 or 10 forwards around while the mix is sacrificed to the human shield and the knockoff human shield.

The Bylsma-tendencies do worry me.
 
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