Waived: Ryan Malone (Cleared 11/3)

[Gospel of Prospal]

What does Fast offer that Duclair doesn't?

 

[silverfish]

atleast this makes things more obvious when all the forwards are healthy

Kreider, Stepan, MSL
Zuc, Brassard, Nash
Hagelin Miller or Hayes, Stempniak
Glass, Moore, Fast or Mueller

I send Duclair down. Call me crazy!

This isn't a conversation anymore. It's Hayes. If it was Miller, Miller would be here.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

Lol miller will not come back unless injury.

 

[Kovalev27]

Fast doesn't offer anything

 

[AHB*]

Fast doesn't offer anything

Uhh, ok.

 

[Tawnos]

not sure why boyle was never put on LTIR the 4-6 weeks is easily more than the 10 game minimum and we have negative cap space available so saving the cap space would have helped too

Players on LTIR don't give you any extra cap space, they allow you to exceed the cap limit (it seems like the same thing, but that's actually an important distinction). The Rangers still have more than $2m to exceed the cap limit with Stepan on LTIR, and Boyle will miss his 10th game tomorrow. He's nearly ready to come back. If he had healed just a little bit quicker, he might not have missed 10 games. In the end here, he might miss 12. I somewhat expect to see him back on Saturday.

The Rangers are a team that never utilizes LTIR unless they absolutely have to for Cap purposes or the player is going to be out for significantly more time than the minimum. Boyle didn't trigger either scenario.

 

[Vickers8]

Fast doesn't offer anything

I don't see much either

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I don't see much either

He's a very bland player. I like him more than Miller, though.

 

[Vickers8]

He's a very bland player. I like him more than Miller, though.

So do I

 

[UDnyr92]

A lot of reporters posting Malone quotes... these capture the full picture I think...

@PLeonardNYDN

Ryan Malone: "Everything happens for a reason. Not sure what the reason is yet, but it always seems to work out in the end." #NYR

Context of last quote: Malone said Hayes, Duclair great young players. NHL getting younger. Not sure if he clears whether he'll go to AHL.

 

[silverfish]

He's a very bland player. I like him more than Miller, though.

Fast just seems like a responsible Swede. He reminds of Korpikoski. For a while, there was some thought he could be a top-6 winger. More realistically? He's a defensively responsible and smart guy with good speed who can pot a few here and there.

Nothing wrong with that, guys like that in the NHL can have long careers.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Fast just seems like a responsible Swede. He reminds of Korpikoski. For a while, there was some thought he could be a top-6 winger. More realistically? He's a defensively responsible and smart guy with good speed who can pot a few here and there.

Nothing wrong with that, guys like that in the NHL can have long careers.

I think Fast is definitively a bottom six player for sure. I would like him to develop into something less bland, but he's at least useful as is.

 

[TheTakedown]

Fast just seems like a responsible Swede. He reminds of Korpikoski. For a while, there was some thought he could be a top-6 winger. More realistically? He's a defensively responsible and smart guy with good speed who can pot a few here and there.

Nothing wrong with that, guys like that in the NHL can have long careers.

Fast definitely has a role on the 4th line in the future. potential to be a Hagelin-type player. Quick, smart on the puck, smart away from the puck, not a liability in any end of the ice.

He is definitely staying with NYR.


As for Malone going down, it's probably just for cap savings. Here's how capgeek shakes out without Stepan playing, McD on LTIR, and Boyle+Klein still out:

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Mats Zuccarello ($3.500m) / Derick Brassard ($5.000m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Chris Kreider ($2.475m) / Kevin Hayes ($0.900m) / Anthony Duclair ($0.773m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Dominic Moore ($1.500m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m)
Tanner Glass ($1.450m) / Chris Mueller ($0.600m) / Lee Stempniak ($0.900m)
Jesper Fast ($0.805m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Dan Girardi ($5.500m)
Matt Hunwick ($0.600m) / Dylan McIlrath ($0.703m)
Conor Allen ($0.925m) / Mike Kostka ($0.650m)
John Moore ($0.851m) /
Dan Boyle ($4.500m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
LTIR
Derek Stepan ($3.075m)
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m)
BONUS OVERAGE
NaN
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15 crunched using simulation date of 2014-11-02)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; BONUSES: $4,508,333
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $5,757,964

 

[Vickers8]

Fast definitely has a role on the 4th line in the future. potential to be a Hagelin-type player. Quick, smart on the puck, smart away from the puck, not a liability in any end of the ice.


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He needs to get stronger, he gets moved off the puck too easily

 

[Kovalev27]

Fast is prob a bottom 6 player on a non playoff team

But for us we are trying to win a Cup he's not helping us

He's a warm body fill in for us at best

Malone sounds like he's done no one is claiming him

 

[silverfish]

Fast is prob a bottom 6 player on a non playoff team

But for us we are trying to win a Cup he's not helping us

He's a warm body fill in for us at best

Malone sounds like he's done no one is claiming him

You have some confidence in these predictions.

 

[Leetch3]

Players on LTIR don't give you any extra cap space, they allow you to exceed the cap limit (it seems like the same thing, but that's actually an important distinction). The Rangers still have more than $2m to exceed the cap limit with Stepan on LTIR, and Boyle will miss his 10th game tomorrow. He's nearly ready to come back. If he had healed just a little bit quicker, he might not have missed 10 games. In the end here, he might miss 12. I somewhat expect to see him back on Saturday.

The Rangers are a team that never utilizes LTIR unless they absolutely have to for Cap purposes or the player is going to be out for significantly more time than the minimum. Boyle didn't trigger either scenario.

yes thats true that it doesn't really give you extra cap space at the end of the year...but if both stepan and boyle were on LTIR right now it would give us some flexibility right now to bring in some help on d. there would have been no harm in putting boyle on it

 

[Tawnos]

McDonagh 3-4 weeks means maybe they aren't putting him on LTIR. Like I said, this is a precaution to make sure they can do what they need to tomorrow in any scenario.

 

[Vitto79]

A lot of reporters posting Malone quotes... these capture the full picture I think...

@PLeonardNYDN

I bet nyr is fine if he wants to terminate the deal but he did sign a 2 way knowing that could happen . Still think he's claimed

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

atleast this makes things more obvious when all the forwards are healthy

Kreider, Stepan, MSL
Zuc, Brassard, Nash
Hagelin Miller or Hayes, Stempniak
Glass, Moore, Fast or Mueller

I send Duclair down. Call me crazy!

I'm going to call u crazy cuz miller is still an option in your mind...

 

[Doctyl]

Fast is only 22 and he is a very good defensive winger. I like him a lot but our wing depth is ridiculous

 

[Vitto79]

I'm going to call u crazy cuz miller is still an option in your mind...

Hayes cant win a faceoff and you think miller won't get s chance ? Call me crazy but I will say I told ya so soon

 

[Vitto79]

What does Fast offer that Duclair doesn't?

Is duclair a pker ? Fast is going to come back up . I mean I see why posters like duclair but playing top minutes in juniors is not terrible for a 19 yr old

 

[Idlerlee]

I feel a little bad for Malone, he's gotten too much **** for a small mistake.

Hopefully another NHL club picks him up and allows him to continue his career a few more years

 

[RempireStateBuilding]

Hayes cant win a faceoff and you think miller won't get s chance ? Call me crazy but I will say I told ya so soon

Hayes does everything else right aside from faceoffs, and he's shown he can do well on those. Miller did..something sometimes. Pre-season, he looked great. Engaged and flying, making smart plays, etc. Granted pre-season is essentially NHL lite. Once regular season started Miller looked confused half the time. Couldn't receive a pass to save his life, forcing plays that weren't there, just didn't look like he was ready yet. I don't think Hayes not being able to take a few faceoffs is going to sway the organization/AV/whoever that Miller belongs in the NHL over Hayes.