When I say no team I am implying that Hossa and Kane are worlds different than Foligno and Dubinsky.
I am using exaggeration to make a point.
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When I say no team I am implying that Hossa and Kane are worlds different than Foligno and Dubinsky.
I am using exaggeration to make a point.
Fine, you've made your point: you think RJ is the greatest player in CBJ history and deserves to be paid $7mil a year.
Some here might agree, some don't. Continuing to belabor the issue, while insulting Ohio, the Jackets, and their fans, adds nothing to the discussion.
Give it up.
I am definately not saying he's worth 12 million this year. But 7 mil for 2 years and then a payoff of a 12 mil/8 year deal is what should be happening.
My side of the discussion is why in the world the 7 mil deal hasn't been done yet and speculating there being bad blood between the camps.
No Johansen didn't Signle Handedly take them to game 6 but I bet that if he was injured a sweep was possible.
I don't mean to downplay the rest of the team but compared to other stars it isn't far fetched he wouldn't get 90 points with Kane instead of Foligno.
To me Ryan Johansen has an even bigger ceiling than imaginable between 25-30 like top 3 in the league good. And once again
No Malkin on his team
No St Louis on his team
edit I cheer for CBJ every year Johansen or not, nice try but no Atkinson and Dubinsky arn't the 1st line players you make them out to be, its not an insult its analysis.
I am just considering how stacked other teams are with star players and how inflated numbers must get, I understand Jenner, Rychel, Johsnon, and Murray are all getting paid big. I think Toews and Kane set 12 mil as a standard for franchise players, and I think RyJo is a franchise player this year or next year.
My side of the discussion is why in the world the 7 mil deal hasn't been done yet and speculating there being bad blood between the camps.
No Johansen didn't Signle Handedly take them to game 6 but I bet that if he was injured a sweep was possible.
I don't mean to downplay the rest of the team but compared to other stars it isn't far fetched he wouldn't get 90 points with Kane instead of Foligno.
To me Ryan Johansen has an even bigger ceiling than imaginable between 25-30 like top 3 in the league good. And once again
No Malkin on his team
No St Louis on his team
edit I cheer for CBJ every year Johansen or not, nice try but no Atkinson and Dubinsky arn't the 1st line players you make them out to be, its not an insult its analysis.
I am just considering how stacked other teams are with star players and how inflated numbers must get, I understand Jenner, Rychel, Johsnon, and Murray are all getting paid big. I think Toews and Kane set 12 mil as a standard for franchise players, and I think RyJo is a franchise player this year or next year.
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Hello Johnny
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Johansen wasn't even the best player on our team in the series. Not by a longshot. Give it up man. You come to our board and trash our team and expect us to play nice?
Yea he looks like he floats but he still gets a ppg in his first playoff games ever.
I am not insulting ur team for downplaying Atkinson and Dubinsky cool your jets.
Hello Johnny
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When I say no team I suppose I am implying no other franchise players on the team. Dubinsky is one of the most underrated players in the league. and Saying No team jabs that even more I guess I take it back. I was aware CBJ rolls 4 lines like pro's
cbjgirl
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After years of having a "franchise player" I strongly prefer the team approach (depth).
Ryan wants to get paid - he needs to prove he can do it for more than one season.
Ryan wants to get paid - he needs to prove he can do it for more than one season.
Wait? Are you saying 14 million over 2 years and then another 96 million over 8 years?
If either of those are true, there is nothing to talk about. He's NOT a 12 million dollar a year player.
I'm glad you want your beliefs to trump reality and common sense.
On another note, I'm sure JK wants a reputation for caving to his own FA's. Great way to manage the cap.
Stamkos, Crosby, and the such are "franchise" players. Even with his year last year, Johansen is not that.
Johansen is ranked as the 14th best center by ATB
A composite list of rankings from Along The Boards has Joey ranked 14th among centers. He landed just ahead of Pavel Datsyuk and right behind Joe Thorton.
Do you think he's ranked too high, too low, or just right?
http://alongtheboards.com/2014/09/fantasy-hockey-rankings-top-50-centers/
A composite list of rankings from Along The Boards has Joey ranked 14th among centers. He landed just ahead of Pavel Datsyuk and right behind Joe Thorton.
Do you think he's ranked too high, too low, or just right?
http://alongtheboards.com/2014/09/fantasy-hockey-rankings-top-50-centers/
Thats perfect to me.
Too high for some but hes the real deal. in another 2 years he pokes top 5
Fantasy value? No way he should be cracking the Top 30, unless we're talking keeper leagues.
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This a ranking of just centers. Easily one of the top 30 centers and if he can kick his assists up to the 40-45 range I think he is rated about right.
Ryan Murray is a franchise player. Sergei Bobrovsky is a franchise player. I also consider Jack Johnson a franchise player, even if he's no Chris Tanev
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Please sign Joey!!
and end this madness. We need him, he wants to be here - lets get this done and we can concentrate on the coming season.
and end this madness. We need him, he wants to be here - lets get this done and we can concentrate on the coming season.
There is a 0% chance that RyJo is currently a better overall player, on the ice and in the locker room, than a healthy Datsyuk and Bergeron. Maybe in 2-3 years, but not now.
That list is sort of bonkers.
2 years, $4.9-5.1 mil AAV. Gets done sometime after training camp starts.
Agree 100% with the bolded. He seems to be well liked by his teammates, as evidenced by the several features where they are playing with him during interviews, etc. However, his game and leadership don't even sniff the value Bergeron and Datsyuk bring. At least in my opinion. At least for now.
I called Joey clutch and said he was great in the playoffs. You called Joey "average" in the playoffs and said he wasn't clutch.
Originally Posted by EDM View PostI don't think Joey was -clutch- at all in the series against the Pens. -Average- is a word that comes to mind-
I linked to both statistics and game box scores, as well explained specific game situations to prove that he was great in the playoffs and was clutch. A couple other people chimed in, mentioning he was a point per game player, also mentioning game specifics...and you had nothing to back up your statement since it is based on some personal agenda you have and not supported by anything.
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