Finnish accent is super obvious. It took me years to get out of it. Now I sound like your average drunkard, but at least not Finnish.
RW Kaapo Kakko - TPS, Liiga (2019 Draft) Part 6
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Ukkosenjumala
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Excellent notion!
Without knowing the context, a gang of hockey tourists walking on a street wearing these T-shirts would be likely associated first to Far Right wing / Nazi Skin Heads than to the Fan Cult of Hockey player.
Black/Blue colors and Coat of Arms lion together is very strong cultural and traditional code for something totally else here in Finland than what it now represent very funny way in New York.
Exactly for that reason I don't think markets in Finland will be very broad with C.O.K. merch of this type. Some Finns may get even offended for how the Coat of Arms is utilized in this context (maybe including some people in aforementioned far-right wing).
Church itself is nice thing IMO. Part of Clergy myself, btw.
It's literally the emblem of an independent finland. What are you guys on about?
Ukkosenjumala
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People shouldn't submit to far-rightists when it comes to our Coat of Arms. Everyone should be able to wear it without the fear of being labelled as an extremist. Pretty sad really.
It's just way too sharp and blocky to me. I guess it's different but I've always been ashamed of it.
RageQuit77
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Exactly!
'Bishops' of the church weren't apparently aware of any of these kind connotations when making their own version of The Coat of Arms.
Finnish Nazis use/d black shirt and blue ties traditionally as their "uniform", and various Skinhead groups rape the coat-of-arms by associating their foul BS with it. Together chosen colors and the coat-of-arms... damn!
@Ukkosenjumala: Yes. That's the problem. Far Right Wing doesn't have monopoly over the national symbols.
BullLund
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You should be ashamed of being ashamed of who you are, and where you are from.
BullLund
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There are like 15 Nazis in Finland. Who gives a damn about what they wear?
Seriously reading the last few pages of this thread is just insanity. Get out of the web and into the real world, nobody gives a shit about Nazis.
RageQuit77
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What you rage about?! All of this would be irrelevant if C.O.K wouldn't exist and Kakko wouldn't be indirectly associated to with symbolic values totally not-related to him. I'm sure C.O.K. can make some doctrinal changes to their symbolism if made aware of these kind stuff.
Only 15 Nazis in Finland? Great! Goal is ZERO!
Waiting the Draft. Being also exceptionally sober this time. So, take easy!
BullLund
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What symbolic values? You're the one attributing those "symbolic values" to it, no one else.
Stop ruining fun. Nobody likes the guy who crashes the party with some meaningless drivel that nobody else cares about.
Legend Leinonen
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1) Far right has "monopoly" over those symbols because people like you.
2) Far right has the right to wear those symbols, if they so choose.
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Great, just when you think the Kakko thread couldn't stray further away, we've now entered into Nazi talk. 
This thread has been a dumpster fire for so long. Thank christ that the draft is upon us.Great, just when you think the Kakko thread couldn't stray further away, we've now entered into Nazi talk.
RageQuit77
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@BullLund and @Legend Leinonen
Too drunken or just being pretentious? Not gonna copy paste stuff, links, and attach pictures to underline what I meant with that "symbolism" and "monopoly", everyone can easily do that themselves by few simple google searches.
Its more about that does North American folks know about possible connotations their contextually unrelated (and adorable fan-projects) may have elsewhere.
Anyway, personally I got best laughs for long time because of that 'church' project, and not least because of how absurd the whole thing is and what it looks like.
Hoping and waiting the Messiah will land to right address soon enough, otherwise there will be rather difficult crisis in the recently established faith.
Too drunken or just being pretentious? Not gonna copy paste stuff, links, and attach pictures to underline what I meant with that "symbolism" and "monopoly", everyone can easily do that themselves by few simple google searches.
Its more about that does North American folks know about possible connotations their contextually unrelated (and adorable fan-projects) may have elsewhere.
Anyway, personally I got best laughs for long time because of that 'church' project, and not least because of how absurd the whole thing is and what it looks like.
Hoping and waiting the Messiah will land to right address soon enough, otherwise there will be rather difficult crisis in the recently established faith.
FinPanda
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So who wants to make part 7? I can make it but I've made so many that I think someone else can do better job with the OP.
Good to do it now before the draft.
E: meh, I want to do it myself
Good to do it now before the draft.
E: meh, I want to do it myself
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The only thing that brings those connections about in the first place is people being scared of associated with "nazis" and hence not using anything they're using, which then makes that become their official symbol. If people just used them and didn't care, they wouldn't be branded as nazi. So your attitude is the main issue. And yes, this isn't exactly fruitful as a topic.
Legend Leinonen
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You get labeled nazi so easy in this modern World, that perhaps the Word has lost some of it's power. So, I think Americans can live (I encourage them towards courage) with the fact that some hyped-up Finnish person thinks they are evil nutcases because of some shitty looking emblem in their shirts.
RageQuit77
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Agreed. Nazi label goes to things that aren't that in reality, while phenoms that should earn such label by their nature go un-labelled.
I have no personal problems with the Coat of Arms of Finland in its proper context of usage and normal use as a symbol of the State, and the Nation. Me or my attitude isn't any cause of mentioned factual things existing already long before I was even born.
People behind the Church of Kakko cannot be anyway called "evil nutcases", contrary to that! They must be very creative and enthusiast in their 'cause', having also great sense of humor.
What comes to over-hyped persons, I think there are a lot of those around. So, let's end this topic now and with good mood.
agent082
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Great, just when you think the Kakko thread couldn't stray further away, we've now entered into Nazi talk.
This is now finnish nazi threath.
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