Rumor: Rumours & Proposals Thread | Kypreos: OTT & EDM have had Hoffman for Picks/Prospects talks

[Burnt Biscuits]

The thing is, what if Draisaitl puts up say 70P playing with guys like Strome and Khaira, who are 3rd/4th liners? You won't find comparables around the league who are producing like that without 1st line quality line mates, aside from maybe Malkin. I'd rather wait the full season to judge him rather than a 27 game sample in a season where he's missed 5 games from a concussion, and has been unsustainably unlucky on the PP.

Malkin and Kessel have actually been playing together quite a bit over the past couple years.

I believe in Drai's ability to become a dominant player independent of McDavid, but even if he's not the worst case scenario is what he becomes a Corey Perry/Jakub Voracek who forms a dominant duo with an elite C, not the worst problem to have, you can still build around that.

 

[Throttlehead]

Draisaitl will be just fine, lets not panic, he's just going through a tough stretch. I would sooner try to move Maroon and bring in someone like Kane.
I sure wish the coach would try Kassian, Khaira and Draisaitl on a line, that is a master possession/cycle type line who would wear other team's D out and create chances.

 

[Jet Walters]

Kane would be an interesting rental. We could use that speed on the left side. Ideally we upgrade Strome with someone a little more skilled too.

Strome, Caggiula, pick/prospect for Mats Zuccarello

Picks/prospects for Kane


Lucic McDavid Puljujarvi
Khaira Draisaitl Zuccarello
Kane RNH Kassian
Maroon Letestu Slepyshev

 

[StevenF1919]

Trading an 70-80 point player who makes 8.5mil plus assets for a 70-80 point player who will make 11mil

That would be a terrible idea imo

One of those players puts up those points playing D, the other puts them up playing sidekick to McDavid.

 

[PaPaDee]

I wonder if the Oil will try to sign Nurse to the Klefbom contract in the off season.

 

[oXo Cube]

I wonder if the Oil will try to sign Nurse to the Klefbom contract in the off season.

I think it's pretty much a guarantee that they will try to do this.

I think Nurse will/should be pretty receptive to it as well.

 

[JarvisFunk]

I wonder if the Oil will try to sign Nurse to the Klefbom contract in the off season.

That would be the best thing for the organization as Darnell looks like he has put everything together. People will still cry overpayment no matter what.

 

[Paralyzer]

I love how we are talking like Draisaitl, Lucic, RNH, Russell, blah blah blah is overpaid when teams like Boston struck out on Beleskey and now they are waiving him. At least these guys are performing and scoring. Sometimes I feel this forum has to have some irrational person on here to argue a stupid point that isn't needed.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Nurse can technically be resigned now, I kind of hope they get ahead of him on that and try to get him on a 5 or 6 yr deal at Between $3.5-4M per.

Also, for interest sakes, Belesky on Waivers from the Bruins, Oilers would have no interesting, just interesting to see.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Yeah ideally the klefa contract for Nurse would be nice. Our top 3 will all have favourable deals for a few years then. If he wants big money it would make sense to do a bridge deal until Russell and Sekera deals are up in 2020.

 

[belair]

Yeah ideally the klefa contract for Nurse would be nice. Our top 3 will all have favourable deals for a few years then. If he wants big money it would make sense to do a bridge deal until Russell and Sekera deals are up in 2020.

I think Nurse is a guy you bridge this summer. He's a guy who's just establishing himself in the NHL and it's still a ways away from being a certainty where he fits in this lineup long term. I just don't see a reason to offer up $4m+ for him when he's likely wrapping this season up with around 20 points.

 

[LMFAO]

I think Nurse is a guy you bridge this summer. He's a guy who's just establishing himself in the NHL and it's still a ways away from being a certainty where he fits in this lineup long term. I just don't see a reason to offer up $4m+ for him when he's likely wrapping this season up with fewer than 20 points, averaging fewer than 20 minutes a night.

Da hell? He has 12 points in 31 games
So you think he is getting 7 or less points in the remaining 51 games?

 

[belair]

Da hell? He has 12 points in 31 games
So you think he is getting 7 or less points in the remaining 51 games?

Corrected myself... On a phone.

But yes, if I'm a betting man I see him finishing the season in the low to mid twenties.

 

[Jet Walters]

I love how we are talking like Draisaitl, Lucic, RNH, Russell, blah blah blah is overpaid when teams like Boston struck out on Beleskey and now they are waiving him. At least these guys are performing and scoring. Sometimes I feel this forum has to have some irrational person on here to argue a stupid point that isn't needed.

The Lucic contract gets ripped here on a daily basis but it's looking like one of the better deals handed out from that UFA class by a longshot. Other players handed out 6M and term were Backes, Eriksson, and Okposo who are all having very pedestrian seasons. Brouwer at 4.5 is looking terrible, and Nielson and Ladd around 5.5 each is also very bad. Lucic has proven to be the best value out of all these signings, and one of the youngest players too.

 

[Paralyzer]

The Lucic contract gets ripped here on a daily basis but it's looking like one of the better deals handed out from that UFA class by a longshot. Other players handed out 6M and term were Backes, Eriksson, and Okposo who are all having very pedestrian seasons. Brouwer at 4.5 is looking terrible, and Nielson and Ladd around 5.5 each is also very bad. Lucic has proven to be the best value out of all these signings, and one of the youngest players too.

Couldn't agree more. Plus with the cap going up, it's looking better every year.

 

[Paralyzer]

Nurse can technically be resigned now, I kind of hope they get ahead of him on that and try to get him on a 5 or 6 yr deal at Between $3.5-4M per.

Also, for interest sakes, Belesky on Waivers from the Bruins, Oilers would have no interesting, just interesting to see.

Agreed Oilers would have no interest. I just find it funny that the GM said Beleskey's contract would pay itself when he signed him. Derp

 

[Jet Walters]

Nurse is putting up these points without the benefit of PP time too. He is really doing great things at both ends of the ice. Just to put things in perspective here are defensemen with 1-2 less ES points than Nurse so far this year.

Subban
Josi
Sergachev
Letang
Shattenkirk
Yandle
Parayko
Suter
OEL
Hamilton
Zaitsev
Keith
Dumba Spergeon
Weber

People don't really realize it but a defenseman putting up 25-30 points in a year without seeing any PP time is very hard.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

The Lucic contract gets ripped here on a daily basis but it's looking like one of the better deals handed out from that UFA class by a longshot. Other players handed out 6M and term were Backes, Eriksson, and Okposo who are all having very pedestrian seasons. Brouwer at 4.5 is looking terrible, and Nielson and Ladd around 5.5 each is also very bad. Lucic has proven to be the best value out of all these signings, and one of the youngest players too.

I forgot Backes was still in the league he's been that irrelevant.

 

[McKappa]

Nurse is our best D by far and he's starting to flash top pairing potential on a game by game basis

The Klefdeal would be a bargain, pls, Chiarelli, do something right for once.

 

[Jet Walters]

I forgot Backes was still in the league he's been that irrelevant.

He's been on the IR for a good chunk of the year. Still only 4 points in 11 games though. That brings up another bonus with Lucic- the fact he's incredibly durable missing only a handful of games the last 6-7 years.

 

[t0nedeff]

Slavins caphit is 5.3 million for 7 years Nurse should be looking for around 4-5 I would think.

 

[Pressure]

Lets be REAL here gentlemen. I hope you have had the pleasure of watching Karlsson play because if you haven't then that's why it's even an issue. Karlsson is a top 5-10 player in the entire league, not only at his position. He is a cornerstone franchise changing defenseman that is generational like McDavid. You trade any number of packages to acquire him if possible. That's not even a question. He is capable of turning a team around on his own.

If it take Drai-Klef and a second/first round pick, you do it.

He is proven, a winner and the best at his position imo.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Lets be REAL here gentlemen. I hope you have had the pleasure of watching Karlsson play because if you haven't then that's why it's even an issue. Karlsson is a top 5-10 player in the entire league, not only at his position. He is a cornerstone franchise changing defenseman that is generational like McDavid. You trade any number of packages to acquire him if possible. That's not even a question. He is capable of turning a team around on his own.

If it take Drai-Klef and a second/first round pick, you do it.

He is proven, a winner and the best at his position imo.

Yeah, he’s got his name engraved on the Stanley Cup a grand total of zero times

 

[Pressure]

Yeah, he’s got his name engraved on the Stanley Cup a grand total of zero times

Not all great players have their name engraved on the cup. If you don't think Karlsson is a generational defenceman than we have vastly different opinions.

 

[NeverForget06]

Karlsson's ankle is something we should all consider thoroughly before trading away half our roster.