BelovedIsles
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Looks like Lou struck out again, he was outbid for Duche and Stone without a backup plan. Hoping he brings in the big fish in July, losing faith in his ability to lockdown and close.
Speculation: Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2018-19 - Part VIII - Trade Deadline Edition
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GrandmaSlices51631
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Fun fact: 15 of the 16 playoff teams will not win the cup, many of them gave up assets in an effort to do so. We were not one of those teams. What Lou did is called Asset Preservation, after what happened with Traitor, spending big on a rental was probably out of the question - if the reports about the contract offered to Stone was any indication of that.
"We're probably a year or two away."
Trotz said that last month, he won the cup last year and is one of the all time winning coaches in the game, respect his opinion and expertise and wait OR go find another team to root for.
MYIslanders
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Agreed! However, I would rather have a good home grown roster for years to come instead of a great paper roster for 3 months. That very well may have been the decision Lou was faced with. I trust the men with the rings and HOF status.
Fun fact. Only one team wins the cup every year. What does that have to do with a fan base that makes the dumbest excuses, like its an experience season.
To the bolded: Settle down Beavis
I think it’s a stupid decision on his part. I’m wondering if he’s single. It’s hard for me to see a married guy just up and signing in the course of a few hours like he did
Newsworthy
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Maybe at the deadline with all these teams scrambling and overpaying but he had the Summer and in season to make moves and all he did was trade for Matt Martin.
Nah, I dont think so. Actually I think the majority of people on here agree with me. If you put up a poll, we can see, but I am pretty sure "disappointed" would win pretty handily.
They aren’t on cusp of playoff spot they are solidly in a spot so because they have free agents they could lose they should trade them no matter what
nyisles
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Being in first place late Feb is "nonsense," blowing up your division-leading roster for futures is the way to go. HFBoards loser mentality in a nutshell.
Again, not defending Snow, but was not the same thing said about him? Is that not where all the kicking the tires and having lines in the water jokes came from? What matters is a result. Making phone calls is meaningless. If we finish in second place with every UFA for the next five years, we will have exactly zero signed UFAs.
GrandmaSlices51631
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Current leadership didn't come up with the experience season BS. How about, this is the first season with a competent GM/Coach combo in two plus decades? Is that an excuse to you?
As evidenced today not much benefit in us sucking this year. We wouldn’t have gotten much back at all for Lee, Eberle, Nelson etc.
I think everyone is disappointed but it’s different than from past years. We seem to finally have a direction, a team that works hard and plays for each other who is in first place in metro at deadline. I wanted stone particularly I didn’t want any part but of Duchene but there will be another guy come the summer. I trust Lou and Trotz and where they are taking this team.
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So now please copy and paste them here and while you quote each poster say: BOOM Roasted to them and tag them. I'm sure @PK Cronin and @xECK29x will allow it.
How many UFA's on Tampa 's roster?They're still the favorite no? My eyes tell me they have an elite HOMEGROWN,DRAFTED ,core!
I'm not getting into a back and forth with you. You may have the last word.
GrandmaSlices51631
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You seem very concerned with being agreeable. Stop thinking about emotions. Emotional decisions usually result in poor outcomes. Lamoriello and Trotz are using rationale and were going to have a better team as a result.
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Eerily similar to the last July 1: losing on big fish, keep adding Hickey.
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What a position for management to be in.
On the one hand they would be very committed to 'staying the path' they laid out when they took over, of preserving young talent and building for sustained success.
But then they unexpectedly find the team on top and in a rare position of being a challenger, at least as far as the standings go.
It must have been very tempting to roll the dice as you never know when the opportunity will come again - injuries, player development or lack of, even decisions by other teams mean that all the careful planning in the world is no guarantee of success. They may never be top again this late in a season. So do you bet big to win big?
However, the sporting world is also full of teams who misjudged their ability to win championships, thought they were closer than they actually were, and made costly long-term decisions as a result.
My Aussie Rules team four or five years ago was in this position, top of ladder and making every decision about immediate success, wanting to cash in while a core group of senior players were still going. Recruiting and team selection revolved around it, younger players weren't given a sniff and any holes were filled with old heads who could be 'relied' upon. And it worked...they were the team to beat...until they started getting injuries mid-season. They lost nearly every game in second half of year as the window closed firmly shut. Within a year they were near the bottom. They knew the risk and took it, and it backfired.
It's a tough decision to make. In BT and LL we trust!
#LGI
On the one hand they would be very committed to 'staying the path' they laid out when they took over, of preserving young talent and building for sustained success.
But then they unexpectedly find the team on top and in a rare position of being a challenger, at least as far as the standings go.
It must have been very tempting to roll the dice as you never know when the opportunity will come again - injuries, player development or lack of, even decisions by other teams mean that all the careful planning in the world is no guarantee of success. They may never be top again this late in a season. So do you bet big to win big?
However, the sporting world is also full of teams who misjudged their ability to win championships, thought they were closer than they actually were, and made costly long-term decisions as a result.
My Aussie Rules team four or five years ago was in this position, top of ladder and making every decision about immediate success, wanting to cash in while a core group of senior players were still going. Recruiting and team selection revolved around it, younger players weren't given a sniff and any holes were filled with old heads who could be 'relied' upon. And it worked...they were the team to beat...until they started getting injuries mid-season. They lost nearly every game in second half of year as the window closed firmly shut. Within a year they were near the bottom. They knew the risk and took it, and it backfired.
It's a tough decision to make. In BT and LL we trust!
#LGI
LeapOnOver
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Yes, the same thing was said about Snow. The opposite was said about him too (Neiderreiter trade, Vanek trade). Of course people are going to criticize every move, but hockey operations is like an ice berg and we are only seeing a tiny bit of it. Snow had no pedigree to go off to give him the benefit of the doubt, Lou does. You can sit there and try to draw comparisons, but the only ones that are important are 3 stanley cups and a perennial playoff team. You should read this and get on board the "In Lou We Trust" bandwagon.
The Lou Lamoriello you do and don't know - Sportsnet.ca
I think some people have to realize even with we traded a bunch of non roster assets for McDavid we still wouldn't be Stanley Cup favorites, so why we are arguing over no going out and getting somebody like Dzingle or Johansson is beyond me.
The only guy traded today I think the Islanders should have made a run for was Granlund, but I have a feeling that was more a case of Minnesota targeting a player then looking to dump Granlund
The only guy traded today I think the Islanders should have made a run for was Granlund, but I have a feeling that was more a case of Minnesota targeting a player then looking to dump Granlund
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